• Squizzy@lemmy.world
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    17 days ago

    Given Nintendos never on sale pricing I cannot commit to this console. God 90 for a game is ridiculous.

    Not to mention their awful peripherals pricing and chatoic lineup.

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      I don’t actually think that $90 for a game is ridiculous nowadays, if the game has tons of content.

      But a company of Nintendo’s size, with their sales volume, selling a game for $90 when it only has a few hours of content? Fuck off

      They’re like the exact opposite of the spectrum from Minecraft

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        One thing I can believe is that AAA games have gotten really expensive to make, so it’s not surprising that companies have broken that sort of soft $60 limit that we had for a while. I’m not even against paying more for a good game. When an indie game for $20 can provide over 100 hours of enjoyment, it’s just getting to be a tough sell.

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    16 days ago

    Guessing there’s a lot of DLSS going into those resolution and framerate specs…

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      16 days ago

      Judging by the bit of Prime 4 they showed, I think their first party titles will just skip ray tracing and use relatively low-poly models.

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    15 days ago

    the size of the framebuffer has nothing to do with how much power the device has to fill it up.

    Even the crappiest integrated gpu is “4k” capable

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    16 days ago

    Are they legit charging money for the tech demo game?

    Also did they mention how much the “upgrades” will be?

    Seems like I’m staying on Steam Deck until that thing wears down into a pile of dust huh.

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      Also did they mention how much the “upgrades” will be?

      My understanding is it’s $10 for upgrades that just run better with no new content, and $20 for ones that also have new content of come sort. Nintendo’s gonna be the most expensive console to buy games for now. Remember the Switch tax? Get ready for the Switch tariff!

      • Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world
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        16 days ago

        From what i am reading only mario party jamboree and kirby upgrades will cost money, the zelda ones are free if you pay for switch online and metroid and pokemon dont appear to have any proce attached to their upgrades.

        The running theory is thst most games wont cost to upgrade unless they offer expanded content. But expansions costing money is nothing new.

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          16 days ago

          if you pay for switch online

          The more expensive Switch Online Expansion Pass, specifically. That’s a big if.

          • Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world
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            16 days ago

            That’s $4.17 a month. It’s even cheaper if you get a family account and share with your family and / or friends like i do. (I am actually UK, but it seems the US price is the most quoted.) And comes with all the n64 (and the new gamecube) games. Its the cheapest online service of the three main consoles.

            Also, to be clear. Im not a big switch guy, and i think nintendo are a greedy company. I mostly play playstation these days but my switch is handy and there are some amazing first party games.

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              16 days ago

              That’s $4.17 a month.

              …on top of all the other “It’s only $X!” subscription services out there. If it’s the ONLY subscription you have, sure, that’s not bad, but how common is that?

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                16 days ago

                person just unironically said they pay nintendo 5 bucks a month for the privilege to play a curated list of 40 year old games you can quite literally find anywhere online. That’s 60$ a year to access an emulator they probably have less than 10 hours of playtime on. There’s just really no justification for Nintendo anymore, BOTW broke me and I had to be talked into it.

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                  There are other perks, but most of them feel like problems they’re creating and then selling you the solution to rather than genuine value.

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                  Ok. Let’s not misrepresent what i said.

                  Firstly, you dont round up 4.17 to 5.

                  Second. I said i am in the UK, so i dont bay any dollars a month.

                  Third, I pay for 1 quarter of £5 a month, which is the monthly cost of a family account. Which i said i have. So it’s actually £1.25 ($1.64) a month.

                  Forth, The games that come with the expansio are not 40 years old.the expansion gives you the n64, gameboy advance and genesis games, which are 28, 23 and 35 years old respectively.

                  Fifth, as well that i get 48 mario kart maps, as well ss some other games. On top of the online play which you get in the standard pack, and some other bits.

                  Sixth, i have played and completed mario 64 and bajo kazooie on the n64 emulator. I have introduced my son to mario kart 64 as well. I also am slowly working my way through jet force gemini. I have complete goldeneye played multiplayer with my brothers here and there and am working through perfect dark. On the GBA emulator i am playing golden sun. 10 hours is a severe underestimate for all that and more.

                  Finally. If you are salty about BOTW, then thats your problem. But dont go around lying about what i said to make yourself feel better.

  • Leeuk@feddit.uk
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    16 days ago

    For me, its not the console price thats the problem. £395.99 in the UK but if we consider inflation, the switch 1 would be around £360-365 today. An extra £30ish for a bigger screen and more power is not too unreasonable. Plus ending in 95.99 rather than 99.99 suggests Nintendo have tried to trim the headline price down.

    The real problem is the accessories and games. £75 for new pro controller, £50 for new microSD Express (only ones compatible) £50 for webcam and £67-75 for physical games, £59-£67 for digital.

    Ouch.

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      16 days ago

      It seems like there’s nothing special about the camera, hopefully you could use others.

      The SD Express makes sense, they’re not just upcharging (you can use any manufacturer’s cards), it’s how they guarantee the storage is reliably fast enough for all games to prevent lag in loading speeds

      But for the other accessories, sure. And charging for switch 2 edition upgrades is annoying.

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    16 days ago

    I wanna see what the price is and what reviewers think of the screen and I might get one and sell my Switch OLED.

    However, with these game prices I sure as hell am not getting any games, I‘ll play through my backlog games which I‘ll also check whether and which will get updates. It‘d be really nice if the games I have that play at 30 fps would play at 60 and at 1080p native. Maybe I’ll get physical copies of Switch 2 games heavily discounted later on.

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      16 days ago

      Maybe I’ll get physical copies of Switch 2 games heavily discounted later on.

      Later on, as in, in like 30 years? Assuming physical Switch 2 games don’t become prized collector’s items like every other Nintendo consoles’ physical games

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        I got the vast majority of my physical copies from Amazon discounted, not sure what you‘re on about.

        I‘m neither saying every game will be half the price at some point nor that the games you have in mind will be. I am not paying 70-80 bucks for a videogame in any case though.

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      16 days ago

      At $80-$90 for physical editions, I wouldn’t count on the used market helping that much.

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    17 days ago

    I won’t lie, I’m only interested in the new Pro controller. My old one has slight stick drift which absolutely sucks of course but it’s over 7 years old and feels so much better than anything else on the market. I also prefer the Nintendo button layout over Microsoft’s so it’s an easy purchase.

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      17 days ago

      Have you looked into the hall effect controllers from 8BitDo? They’re compatible with the Switch with a very comparable form factor

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    17 days ago

    That pricing is really putting Nintendo out of its core market. The reason the Switch was an absolute smash is because it was and remained accessibly priced. The fact they’re charging $450 is really putting them out of the “hey that’s not too bad” audience. This is a wildly bad move on their part.

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      16 days ago

      The nickel and diming about every single thing they mentioned makes Sony and Microsoft seem generous by comparison.

      Switch 2 announcement in one image:

      The G stands for gamers’ money!

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      Yes, it is a price increase, but the inflation has been wild. For context, the Switch in 2017 for $299 is equivalent to $389 in 2025 dollars. It’s really been insane. The Nintendo 64 from 1996 was $199, or $404 in 2025 dollars.

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        2017 for $299 is equivalent to $389

        Yes, but it doesn’t cost $389 but $450. For $389 I would’ve considered it, bot not $450. Also the bigger issue for me are the game and accessory prices.

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        16 days ago

        Consumers also had more buying power back then, so converting the currency doesn’t tell the whole story.

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        While you’re not literally wrong adjusting for inflation, their “value proposition” is a bit out the window. It’s so close in price to comparable tech, it seems like a much more serious purchase. Nintendo hit it right with the Wii and the Switch by pricing competitively low. The Switch 2 should follow the same value quotient to be a runaway success. This is effectively what killed the Wii U. The Switch 2 could be destined to follow the same fate.

        Even the mental trickery of “$399” would be more effective than “$449” for Nintendo in the long run. They have to question whether that $50 is worth losing marketshare. I think if they are keeping the game prices and (potentially) the cost of services like online higher than the entry point of buying the system should be lower.

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          16 days ago

          Yea, except:

          • KDE’s built in screen keyboard is broken (Using Steam’s keyboard). GNOME keyboard does work fine.

          • Autologin is on and screen locking is off due to a broken keyboard.

          • Manual installation if hhd, steam, flatpak, lutris may required a physical keyboard for first setup.

          • KDE wallet is on to protect (non-file) data. (Wifi passwords, chrome/Firefox login, etc…)

          • JamesDSP is used as pulse/easyEffects may need a reset as the audio may “break” when resuming from suspend.

          I didn’t want a non-vanilla Debian system (Bazzite), so I chose to manually install Debian and have a nice Debian setup. Besides those issues, everything works pretty good (no crashes, hiccups.)

          Are you interested in Debian on a legion Go?

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      Given the switch2 is going to cost more, definitely.

      Also games are going to be $80 apparently :(

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    17 days ago

    Hopefully they’ll be releasing games for both Switch and Switch 2 for a while like what happened with PS4/PS5. I know the flagship games will be 2 only, but other 3rd party stuff.

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      17 days ago

      It’s at least through this year with Prime 4 and Legends Z-A. I bet the price will make adoption slow and we’ll get major Switch 1 games through 2026.

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        I noticed that Tomodachii was announced for the Switch with a 2026 date. So there will at least be some games still made for it next year as well. A 150 million install base is nothing to sneeze at!

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    I have never purchased a game at $70 so for $80 they can be sure as shit I am hard noping out of this one. I was a day 1 3DS (ambassador club!) and Wii U buyer. Really hope this backfires, so incredibly stupid

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        17 days ago

        Nintendo US website. Mario Kart has an MSRP of $79.99. Donkey Kong has an MSRP of $69.99.

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            In Australia we had an au$90 price tier with only 6 titles:

            • Breath of the Wild
            • Pokkén Tournament DX
            • Fire Emblem Warriors
            • Xenoblade Chronicles 2
            • Super Smash Bros Ultimate
            • Tears of the Kingdom

            All their other AAA titles were au$80, for example:

            • Super Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
            • Animal Crossing: New Horizons
            • Super Mario Odyssey
            • Pokémon Sword/Shield or Scarlet/Violet
            • Super Mario Party / Superstars / Jamboree
            • New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe / Super Mario Wonder

            Then smaller releases were placed at $70, for example:

            • 1-2-Switch
            • Go Vacation
            • Fitness Boxing 2/ 3
            • Miitopia
            • WarioWare: Get It Together / Move it

            You can see they used the $90 tier quite aggressively early in the piece and then scaled back significantly with almost 5 years between Smash Bros and Tears of the Kingdom.

            At the same time they made sure the Marios (Kart, 3d, 2d, Party, Sports), Pokemons and other franchises with broad all-ages appeal were priced in the middle at $80.

            To be honest I’m a bit worried about the pricing for Super Mario Kart World, the previous one was the beat selling Switch title and if they come out of the gate with high sales they may take the wrong lessons and try to lock in that au$120 price (a 50% increase!).

            On the other hand they may just be price anchoring with the bundle. Having the standalone console priced at au$700 and the bundle at au$770 will let the consumer find ways to justify the purchase, they might say the console is worth $700 so the game is only $70, or they might argue the game is $120 so the console is really only $650. Either way will make them feel better about giving Nintendo the money.

            I suppose the best outcome for the consumer would be for most people to get SMKW in the bundle and then hopefully the next title they release at that price point has lacklustre sales. If they see they sell more units at a lower price it can be a good outcome for everyone.

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    Console price doesn’t bother me so much, but these game prices really instantly killed my hype. Can’t wait to not buy the Wii U 2

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    17 days ago

    I’m personally very excited for Prime 4, DK Bananza, and Hyrule Warriors Imprisoning War, as well as F-Zero GX getting released from the vault. Maybe not hyped enough to pay day 1 prices though

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        Not always the case as with the swift price drop for the 3DS. Depends on what sales look like for the Switch 2. Maybe we’ll get an OLED version for $500 or something. But my gaming plate is pretty full, and I may just power through Prime 4 on Switch.

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      17 days ago

      Same here, post-covid two-class society might not let this one pass sales wise, I fear