If someone were to record a flawless, 4K video of an actual alien walking around or a spaceship flying overhead, people would just think it’s a deep fake.
I always giggle at the idea that aliens would come here in some super advanced spaceship.
Look at the spacecraft we’ve managed to land on other celestial bodies. They’re basically the lightest, sketchiest, life support boxes with a rocket motor that we can manage to get to the destination. It would be reasonable to assume that any alien out there reaching earth for the first time would either send a rover, or it would be the jankiest craft that could just barely get here.
A persistent assumption about advanced interstellar travel is that engine efficiency is monumentally better to the point that the “tyrrany of the rocket equation” is no longer a factor, and extra mass can be carried without absolutely exploding your fuel requirements into absurdity.
If adding 10kg of payload didn’t mean also potentially many times more mass of propellant we’d be sending up more robust spacecraft, no question.
That’s assuming they came here first :)
Also, assuming one of the 60 horrible things happening right now doesn’t prove the Fermi paradox.
We’ve been looking all over for signs of life. Earth screams “there is life here!”
Not me I am well aware ai videos fucking SUCK
I followed disclosure for a while and it seemed to be mostly grifters. The big reveal never comes, meanwhile they are raking in the cash writing books and attending conferences. Some of them even have ridiculous shows on the “history” channel.
What happened at Bayside Mall on Jan 1, 2024??? Still no dash cam footage, cop body cam footage, mall security footage, pictures/videos from people who were there. No one took pictures during the new year celebration?? That incident proved to me how powerful the government is and capable of scrubbing the internet.
The government is so powerful that they’ve even managed to downvote your comment exposing their evil ways! Incredible.
At the same time, they’re too incompetent to keep sensitive war information out of the press, feed or teach their children and poor or even just agree on what to call a fucking bay. But scrubbing thousands of phones instantly, in these live streaming days, no biggie.
When you find the footage let me know. I’m here to have a real discussion about it, not talk about conspiracy theories. Obviously, not everyone in government is intelligent.
Just an idea, but maybe nothing actually happened? So nobody is sharing their videos, or they’re just not going viral because there is nothing to see… The truth is always more mundane than you want it to be…
What’s more likely? A shadow government wiping thousands of videos without thousands of people being up in arms about it. If Gmail goes down for 15m, the whole world goes crazy. We’re taking about the phones of an entire district being instantly cleaned, livestreams shut down, cloud backups (including people backing up to homeservers) being wiped and all. Maybe even dumb cameras and instax pictures being destroyed.
Or nothing but a random hoax of someone having fun?
If you still find the shadow government more likely, there is no discussion to be had tbh…
Supposedly the DOD and alphabet boys have pretty good video, and have gone around confiscating good videos. That family in Vegas that claimed that they had aliens in their back yard a few years ago, the one where the cops said they didn’t think it was a prank but wouldn’t go into detail as to why, got a visit from the alphabet gang not long after, and they had surveillance cameras that pointed into that yard.
Now, as to whether those videos really do exist or if it’s a bunch of hokum, well, it’s going to have to be a case of maybe believe it when we see it. I’ve been following the UAP disclosure efforts with great interest, regardless of where they lead. I’ve always been a UFO/ET enthusiast, but I’m the type that wants to see proof, not “trust me bro, just look at these three pixels, my cousin said he fucked an ET in the army”. If we’re going to get proof, though, at this point we’re going to need more than video. That window’s been shut for a while, thanks to CGI, Photoshop, etc.
It’s all B’s you couldn’t keep it secret with that many people knowing about it.
B’s? Hmm, like B- designation aircraft, implying that they’re bombers?
Well, since there is an apostrophe we can assume that it’s either a contraction or possessive. Being that I’m unaware of the contraction I’m leaning towards possessive, so that means whatever UFOs are belongs to someone or some group named “B.” To my knowledge, the organizations that widely go by B are The Boston Bruins hockey team, and The Bloods, a street/prison gang originating in Los Angeles California. Idk what a hockey team will realistically do with UFO tech in a game where flying isn’t involved, so my best guess as to the meaning is that the Bloods have really leveled up and the Crips should be worried.
They meant BS but their computer/phone messed it up.
“BS”
Ohhhhhh, that makes a lot more sense, yeah
Since you have a big interest, start a community. I don’t think I’ve seen many and I am sure there are many of us who might be lurkers but love the information from individuals like you. I’ll be your first subscriber
alright, https://lemm.ee/c/close_encounters is hot off the presses!
As an alien I would now spend all my time targeting wannabe influencers. Wait until they are alone, get naked and let them take high-quality pictures and videos of my green ass while I dance and play yankee doodle on my harmonica
If Kirk were an alien…
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Wow. An actual shower thought.
Yeah, reddit did it better
You have options. You don’t have to stay here and put up with this.
I’ve seen one myself, back in 2015. Flew right over me without a sound. Someone else on the ground saw it too and flashed an extremely bright beam at it and it responded back by flashing multi colored lights back. I took a picture of it and the only thing that showed up is a small blurry dot. But it was at night.
Amazing. Pack it up everyone. Looks like the old “are we alone” question has been settled once and for all.
Yep that sounds like a flying object that no one identified.
Actual, legit Fortran lore regarding this is that the phenomena knows when it’s being observed and photographed, and can manipulate time and space such that it doesn’t show up on digital photos.
That’s so pathetic.
Tbh, I think the big problem here is that a lot of ground-based sightings happen at night, likely due to a combination of
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Weird shit stands out more in the dark, but also
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It’s just flat out harder to identify stuff in the dark.
Well, guess what doesn’t work as well in the dark? Cameras. As a rule of thumb, cameras almost always work better with more light than less light. It’s already difficult to get high quality pictures of stuff in the dark (depending on your camera, settings, lens, etc), now make it a very bright thing that’s potentially moving quick and at a significant distance, and any attempt to take a picture is cooked, especially with something like a cell phone camera. So, whether what you’re taking a picture of is the mother ship, Aurora, or a DJI drone, it all just kind of turns into a few bright pixels against a dark background. Then, you inevitably get the ends of the bell curve arguing whether it was an extra bright seagull or whether they could literally see the aliens waving at them in those two pixels, which is the death of any serious conversation about the presented evidence.
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How convenient. Reminds me of Carl Sagan’s “The Dragon in my Garage” essay.
For anyone who hasn’t read it (I highly recommend reading the entire book that it’s from: “The Demon-Haunted World”) here’s a link (it’s only two pages): http://people.whitman.edu/~herbrawt/classes/110/Sagan.pdf
What’s the XKCD code for this?
This is Settled: https://xkcd.com/1235/
I feel like basic camouflage wouldn’t be difficult for a UFO. With more advanced camouflage, there’s no way we would know.
Lets put it this way: in the 60s, a photo was not a simple or common thing. Only a few people had a camera at hand, and films could only take 20 to 30 pictures, so they were used sparingly. Still, many UFO pictures date from back then.
Nowadays, everyone has a camera on person, and you can do thousands of pictures in a row. There are millions of recording video surveillance cameras everywhere. So if UFOs exist, there should be myriads of pictures and recordings, many of which in top notch quality, where you could read the labels on the little green mens console buttons.
So far, they remain to be seen.
The problem now is authentication. The evidence needs to come from someone with authority
evidence
Um, who is an authority on these things which dont seem to even exist?
Does it really? You would think that in the times of social media and omnipresent cameras, aliens and UFOs should be omnipresent, if they existed.
And please put warnings before YT links.
UFOs should be omnipresent, if they existed.
There are loads of sightings with videos. Take a look at r/ufo on reddit.
Ufos certainly exist. It’s the Alien part that is crackpot.
BTW. All my youtube links open with Newpipe 😉
There is a very reasonable explanation for this: If we are a topic of research for them, they could have simply stopped studying us in the same way
Take our own science for example. We pull out of studies when the funding dries up. Maybe the aliens’ government grant ran out. Or, perhaps they have a policy of avoiding interference with the subjects. They could have changed methodology in response to the threat of high resolution recording equipment
Nahh, any species able to come close to interstellar travel would be able to observe us from afar. We can already take good data on other planets’ atmospheres. It’s not going to be too much longer (probably still past our lifetimes, but) before we can take spy satellite quality photos of the surface.
Sure, some alien species might prefer to be more hands-on, but I’d hope they’d also recognize the destructive power humans have and stay away; It’s a lot easier to break something than to invent it, and few things remain even recognizable after being hit by bigger military weapons. A lot of older movies/media relied on that fact to make the other thing seem so fantastically strong. Like the alien ship shrugging off a nuke in Independence Day.
That may be true, but there’s only so much you can collect by remote observation. I really like the “interstellar scientists” take, because it’s something I can see us doing. If we obtained warp drive, we would want to understand how other intelligent species develop, and how similar their conditions and course of development is to our own.
The aliens are interested in bovine bowels, which are difficult to probe from afar.
Take a picture of a plane with your cellphone. Not to say that there are aliens in any way, but the devices we have can barely capture a decent picture in a grocery store security system. After 20/30 meters pretty much nothing is clear without specialized equipment.
Yeah there is a reason why plane spotters use 400+mm lenses
I’m not sure there was ever the possibility of a really convincing UFO video. I’d be skeptical of something extremely realistic even if we were still in the days before convincing traditional effects. It’s just too high a bar - it’s much easier to believe that a video was staged, even to an unbelievable level, than it is to believe that it depicts actual beings from another planet. I think that’s why the UFO community hangs their hat so much on Disclosure these days. They must realize that only confirmation from a trusted authority could be real confirmation.
What authority do you trust today?
They must realize that only confirmation from a trusted authority could be real confirmation.
This is a neat observation because it’s ironic on it’s face. UFO people actively work to discredit institutions and authority. But you’re right, they are desperate for confirmation from the Pentagon, the Vatican, even something on official DMV letterhead would be a blockbuster event in UFO/conspiracy spaces.
You clearly underestimate the stupidity and lack of logic employed by conspiracy theorists.
Well, I mean convincing to the public at large. Yeah I know I guy, otherwise perfectly smart, that is convinced that aliens are real based on the cheesiest, most obviously faked videos from back in the 80s or whatever.
I mean, people thought the pandemic we had going for years and the vaccines that controlled it were hoaxes. That the moon landings never happened and that Earth is flat. You are assuming the bar to close that window is way higher than it actually is.
FWIW, sensible people would be more than capable of identifying that situation correctly. Mostly because one has to assume that an alien visit would be more diplomatic engagement and less playing peek-a-boo with an interstellar vehicle for no discernible reason.
Aliens have been pranking us for millions of years
