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Lady Butterfly @lazysoci.al to Memes@sopuli.xyzEnglish · 1 month ago

RIP obsolete tech

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RIP obsolete tech

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Lady Butterfly @lazysoci.al to Memes@sopuli.xyzEnglish · 1 month ago
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    I have not yet begun to peak. I’m gonna make a driving CD eventually

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    DBAN baby!

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    I burn Blu-rays once in a while. They work for backup.

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      …you need so much specific equipment. You do realise that the day blue ray was announced we collectively gave up on physical data storage in the form of polished mineral disks right?

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        So much equipment.

        First you have to buy the DVD writer and then you also have to get yourself blank DVDs.

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        I just use a USB Blu-ray burner. Similar to this one:

        https://a.co/d/0KIB1LJ

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        Polished mineral? Like a silicon wafer? um??

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        We definitely did not gave up on discs. They may no longer be mass consumer oriented. But bluray for backup, archiving and data transfer are still a thing. Nothing beats the bandwidth of a plane filled with hard drives. The media itself is not relevant, magnetic tape is still available and used to this day. The first time I held more than a terabyte in my hand was in a data tape cartridge. Consumer hard drives hadn’t gotten there yet. Even today, new optical media is being researched. There are fascinating breakthroughs on laser engraved crystal storage.

        Anyways, I just wanted to remember that wasteful mass consumption media is not representative of humanity as a whole.

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          Aren’t SD cards higher data capacity than HDDs at this point? Sure maybe not per unit or cost but for the volume of space I am pretty sure HDDs lost a while ago.

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            High capacity SD have a miserably failure rate with regular use. In PI’s and dashcams many only get a couple of years before they start having errors. USB thumb drives do better but they have heat problems. neither are great for backups unless you just do a lot of write once and store

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              Could just have more than 1 backup though, then it doesn’t really matter much if the storage is less reliable as its very unlikely for multiple to fail at the same time

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      I use them all the time. If you plan to leave any data behind that even theoretically exists in 50 years, readable or not, optical media is your only option. Or Ardrive if you want to spend 1000x the amount and make it public. Or microfilm if you are a masochist. In case you plan on leaving any videos around for your grandchildren.

    • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
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      NOOOOO! You must use cheap AliExpress SSDs, because something something 1980’s tech something something technological advancements must be pushed at all cost!

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        Tape or bust (if you can afford it)

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          Was looking for a cheap tape drive, couldn’t find any.

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            DIY Tape Drive:

            • Keep the core-rings remaining from sticky tapes that you use.
            • When you are about to finish your fourth, save some tape
            • Peel the remaining tape and encircle 2 of the core-rings
              • Do the same with the other 2 core-rings and remaining tape
              • You might want the amount of tape used to be same for both the pairs
            • Connect core-rings to the axle of your choice
          • desktop_user [they/them] @lemmy.blahaj.zoneBanned
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            eBay and the 1980s may be helpful

    • Eufalconimorph@discuss.tchncs.de
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      They don’t last very long. About 5-10 years at most, and that’s if you bought special archival burnable DVDs. If you depend on them for backups, you should check the integrity annually (always include a checksum like SHA256 with any backup archive).

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        I have CDs that I burned in the 90s that still work fine. I’m assuming the blu-rays I burn now will probably last as long, which is decades longer than I need them to.

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          I heard that the higher the data density on DVD and BR means the higher the failure rate. Though i have no real evidence of that myself.

          Maybe one or two bits corrupted here or there will only cause some unnoticeable artefacts anyway.

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          Music CDs or data? Music CDs have built-in error correction, data CDs don’t. You can certainly extend the lifetime if they’re stored in the dark in a cool, dry place (UV light, heat, and humidity all damage the dye that gets burned to encode them) but they’re not reliable archival storage without error correction.

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            Music. I have some data CDs I burned in the mid 2000s, that I booted up a few years ago (Linux live CDs). I don’t have any data CDs from the 90s though. IIRC, ISO 9660 does have error correction.

            Edit: I just looked it up. ISO 9660 doesn’t have error correction, but the underlying system, CD-ROM Mode 1, does have error correction.

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    I do the opposite now. I buy discs cheap from bin stores, rip them onto my desktop and then upload to my home library for more affordable ‘streaming’.

  • RymrgandsDaughter@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    I literally have to do this for work so unless I lose this job it’s gonna be another decade

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    I’m not dead yet and have a Blu-ray burner and some blanks.

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    i burned a cd 2 weeks ago.

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      … and you didn’t know it was the last time

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        naw, we have a cd juke box at my work. pretty sure ill be burning them for the foreseeable future.

        • lugal@sopuli.xyz
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          Still in denial, I see /hj

          • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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            /hj? Did you just give him a handjob?

            • MeThisGuy@feddit.nl
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              the floaties got in the way

            • lugal@sopuli.xyz
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              No, it means “half joking” /s

              • dadarobot@lemmy.sdf.org
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                he did tho

                • jaybone@lemmy.zip
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                  Wait, so they’re only half joking about the handjob?

                  Did I get here too late?

      • nao@sh.itjust.works
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        Every time is the last one, at least for a while

    • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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      Cd…or DVD?

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        cd, thats why i said cd.

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      Ok, boomer

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        No boomers are the ones reading the CDs not writing them. Their kids are writting them.

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        I don’t think burning CDs was much of a boomer activity.

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          The phrase just means, “alright old person” now.

          • abbadon420@lemm.ee
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            And I declare that calling someone a cunt now means that you like and respect that person. Please go ahead and use it on your boss next time you see them.

        • Estradiol Enjoyer @lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          CD players were first sold in 1982, when Boomers (if the baby boom started 1945) were hitting their 40s and established in every industry. I think they were actually the perfect demographic to be able to afford a CD player when it first came out.

          • ThePantser@sh.itjust.works
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            First affordable CD burner was from 1995. 50 year olds tend to not adopt new technology, it’s a millennial thing.

            https://www.computerhistory.org/storageengine/consumer-cd-r-drive-priced-below-1000/

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              It’s a gen-x thing, you know, the forgotten generation.

              Lived through the “DOUBLE SPEED!!!” reader up to the 52 some read-write-rewrite.

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                52x baby. Much speed. Such fast.

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                I had several generations, and it was always a huge speed increase. 52x was like lightning

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              As someone who worked sales in that time period, yes, it was the younger crowd (Gen X) that adapted much better to burning CDs. A lot of the baby boomers had difficulty with understanding certain key concepts and details. … And instructions to be honest…

              As for the “Boomer” commenter above: the military and government in the USA still burns to CD for a variety of reasons (no, I won’t go into them). So if someone is military, a government employee, or even just a contractor, there is a chance that at some point they will need to burn a CD, regardless of age.

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                Really? Cause in my time in the army I never once saw any kind of military information being saved to cd. Not once. Never. Even in the early 2000s that was just never a thing. Ever.

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                  Sounds like you might not have been part of a team that needed to do so. In the environments I had been part of, they had requirements for it.

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                  I requested my medical records from my time in the military in 2014 and received them on CD. Which was funny because I didn’t have a computer that could read them at the time, and I still haven’t read them. Turns out the information i needed was already available to the people giving my c&p exam

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                Shut up. They’re supposed to forget about us.

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                In Germany MRI and CT images are regularly handed to patients on CDS.

                • thesystemisdown@lemmy.world
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                  Same in the US.

                • ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  Germany is also technologically 30 years behind the rest of the world…

            • blitzen@lemmy.ca
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              Yet again, GenX is overlooked.

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            Yeah but burning CDs yourself wasn’t a thing until much later.

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        unneccessarily rude!

        They might be just genX.

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          I’m a millennial and I burned a CD last month

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          everyone forgets about gen x

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            No we fuckin don’t, you lot wont let us forget you.

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            …who?

        • misterdoctor@lemmy.world
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          Okay Xoomer

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            That’s just zoomer again

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              It’s pronounced Ex-oomer

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                Exhume her? I barely knew her!

        • IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world
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          Ok dad

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            holy cow, how are you still not in bed, kid! Off you go!

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            Ok zygote

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          millennial. turned 40 this year.

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    Cheap difraction gratings though, indispensable

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    I miss lightscribe

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      I used to use the work lightscribe to burn my band’s cds.

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      I was just about to comment that the last time I did it, it was because I had some lightscribe disks that I wanted to try, but already had no use for anything on a CD.

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    I still burn CDs. This whole streaming thing won’t last. Also, my back hurts…

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      The real meta is to have a hard drive full of flac files and use tailscale to stream them wherever you are from your computer at home

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        I need to learn how to do this.

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          Start with Plex and learn from there.

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            Jellyfin

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              That’s step two.

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          I plan to do so myself. Basically find a Linux package that streams audio on your LAN and get tailscale

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        Yeah well… Can you set the time on a VCR?

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        That’s the dream. Currently debating what to do with a spare laptop and “make it a server” sounds ideal.

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          I suggest Navidrome

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          The main thing you need to worry about in that case is the battery. It’s useful to have a built in UPS, but definitely keep an eye on it, especially after keeping it plugged in for long periods of time.

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        Plexamp is also good for this

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    Jokes on you, I still burn my acquired digital media to BluRay discs

    Disk rot is like 25 years while an SSD still doesn’t have that kind of shelf life

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      Doesn’t it make more sense use harddisks?

      I mean, the ultimate long terms storage medium seems to be tape, but that stuff is very expensive, but outside that harddisks seem to have the best balance of accessibility and shelf life.

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      Who are these mad men who are dumping stuff to SSDs and then sitting them on a shelf? Can’t get my mind around it.

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      Right post there chief

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    I microwaved a few from 2008 last month. They smell of cancer if you do that though.

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    I doubt it. Although, I imagine I may have recorded over my last tape.

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    Unless I die tomorrow, you’re wrong.

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    I still burn them sometimes for the car.

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      The car you downloaded? Because YOU would totally download a car?

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        I downloaded a dealership, and i don’t know where to put it.

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      I think that was the last CD I burned too, before I just started auxing in my phone with Spotify.

      Based on my phone and car-stereo timelines, I guess that means my last burn was probably in 2009 at the latest.

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