Who the fuck cares? Biden isn’t in office anymore. Judge by what he accomplished instead of pretending you all know him personally.
Right now we have a literal fascist in office. Something tells me that’s a bigger issue. We can play the blame game all day, but unfortunately what’s done is done and the time to take action is yesterday.
Getting said literal fascist elected by doing fuck all to solve the problems he said he would, gave said fascist a pass by assigning a mealy mouthed investigator, and hanging out in the race long enough to help depress turnout?
We can play the blame game all day, but unfortunately what’s done is done and the time to take action is yesterday.
We also need to understand why we got to this place, and saying “who the fuck cares” just emboldens the Dems in power to keep trying the same shit that doesn’t work.
We also need to understand why we got to this place, and saying “who the fuck cares” just emboldens the Dems in power to keep trying the same shit that doesn’t work.
We already know how we got here, which is why it doesn’t help anything to bitch and moan about how “both sides suck”.
Quit your bitching and infighting and blaming everyone else, and focus on what we can do now.
How does it solve anything beyond the shortest of terms to keep seeing salvation in a party thats been creeping right in line with the Fascists for half a century?
What will your opinion be in another 5-8 years when the Democrats have followed the Overton window into calling for extralegal deportations of naturalized citizens and Republicans are just calling for the whites to shoot the non-whites in the street with impunity?
“Better support the Democrats, they only want to deport those people to foreign prisons not execute them on the sidewalk! Get that both sides crap out of here!”
We already know how we got here, which is why it doesn’t help anything to bitch and moan about how “both sides suck”.
Clearly, given how the power structure is doing things differently, right?
Quit your bitching and infighting and blaming everyone else, and focus on what we can do now.
Yeah, try to get the establishment to understand a lesson on what failed and have them finally back policies that will encourage people to show up so I don’t have to spend 6 months begging people to vote for them because they fucked the dog yet again?
The Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee called for using far-right candidates “as a cudgel to move the more established candidates further to the right.” Clinton’s camp insisted that Trump and other extremists should be “elevated” to “leaders of the pack” and media outlets should be told to “take them seriously.”
Hillary Clinton, the DNC, and mainstream media also played a pretty big role in Trump’s rise to power back in 2016.
Most people aren’t even aware. I’ll keep pushing that fact even if it angers people.
We all loosely share responsibility for Trump rising to power and maintaining said power, and the best way to remove his power is to pull the wool away from everybody’s eyes.
The Democrats do not represent the people or workers and they will not fight for anybody besides capital. No matter how progressive they brand themselves in the future or how much they claim to want to fight oligarchy. They have zero plan or power — they are not serious actors and my assessment of them has nothing to do with purity testing.
Well, they’re the only other game in town unless you want to sit back and let the fascists take power because people stayed home like they did this year, our hands are pretty much tied come election day. And that is a fact I will keep repeating as long as people refuse to understand that our country is run via electoral politics and no amount of sitting out will change that.
I’m all for getting better candidates on the ballot, but when the only alternative is naked fascism, telling people to stay home or not vote for them is a great way of shooting your pet causes in the foot.
Well clearly we are already almost at a breaking point just 112 days after the start of his presidency. He is ignoring due process and established rights, he is foregoing his oath to uphold the constitution, and everybody in the administration is openly breaking laws left and right. The administration is also arguably in criminal contempt of court.
Personally, I don’t think we’ll even make it 2 years into the presidency before protests of a massive scale or a collapse.
1/3 of the country doesn’t vote in the presidential election, 2/3 are propagandized or coerced into voting for the duopoly. There are many, many people who voted for Trump that likely don’t approve of him now. There are many, many people who voted for Kamala who likely didn’t actually endorse her.
If a revolution or similar event is going to happen, it’s during this presidency. Otherwise there will be no facade of democracy left to participate in when the next election is supposed to come around. The Democrats aren’t going to save us, the answer isn’t to sit back — it’s to create a new system.
But the problem is that this is the exact problem that led to the fascist taking office. The most historically unpopular president plagued by every possible crime and scandal, and the democrats run a Republican. That is why they keep losing. They keep people even remotely left of Republican, like Bernie and AOC, at arms length (at best) from the party, while propping up Joe Biden and Nancy pelosi (almost literally). And then they keep saying “this is the most progressive ticket in history!”
They’re selling out any possible goodwill hey had. Which was very little, if any. And then they turn around and point the finger at us. All while capitalizing on the fascists taking office and capitulating to their agenda, while the talking heads go on to and say “the problem is the party got ‘too woke’ and forgot about the everyday Americans!”
They have clearly failed at this since running a fake progressive in Obama, who also proved everything by running a legitimately progressive campaign in 08 and won by historic numbers. I’m not going to say it was the money behind the party that made them stop even pretending they give a shit…but it was (most likely). They are not a legitimate opposition party. And when the choices are between one of two, well that’s a massive fucking problem. And they’re not addressing it.
So, yes. There is a fascist in office. But if this foundational problem doesn’t get solved and the dems keep moving right (while the OW concept of “right” has shifted so far away from center), then the fascists will continue to radicalize, pulling the entire Democratic Party rightward with it.
That is a problem that needs to get solved before we can get a fascist out of power. Unless we’re talking…like, gonzo style.
The Democrats will never be truly progressive and they will always tease at being socialist. They don’t even address major crises, like the housing crisis, the health care crisis, or the economy — they sit there and gaslight us while playing the blame game to excuse their inaction.
We need progress towards solutions, and they can’t even address the issues. How can they work towards solutions if they can’t come up with any?
The Progressives and Democratic Socialists who once voted Democrats (or who voted Democrat anyway) probably care a lot that they are disenfranchised by Democrats.
Pointing out facts is not the same as playing a blame game. Kamala ran on a conservative platform and lost, it’s a fact.
Who the fuck cares? Biden isn’t in office anymore. Judge by what he accomplished instead of pretending you all know him personally.
Right now we have a literal fascist in office. Something tells me that’s a bigger issue. We can play the blame game all day, but unfortunately what’s done is done and the time to take action is yesterday.
Getting said literal fascist elected by doing fuck all to solve the problems he said he would, gave said fascist a pass by assigning a mealy mouthed investigator, and hanging out in the race long enough to help depress turnout?
We also need to understand why we got to this place, and saying “who the fuck cares” just emboldens the Dems in power to keep trying the same shit that doesn’t work.
We already know how we got here, which is why it doesn’t help anything to bitch and moan about how “both sides suck”.
Quit your bitching and infighting and blaming everyone else, and focus on what we can do now.
How does it solve anything beyond the shortest of terms to keep seeing salvation in a party thats been creeping right in line with the Fascists for half a century?
What will your opinion be in another 5-8 years when the Democrats have followed the Overton window into calling for extralegal deportations of naturalized citizens and Republicans are just calling for the whites to shoot the non-whites in the street with impunity?
“Better support the Democrats, they only want to deport those people to foreign prisons not execute them on the sidewalk! Get that both sides crap out of here!”
-You in 5 years, probably.
We can co-create a new system as this one falls apart.
Clearly, given how the power structure is doing things differently, right?
Yeah, try to get the establishment to understand a lesson on what failed and have them finally back policies that will encourage people to show up so I don’t have to spend 6 months begging people to vote for them because they fucked the dog yet again?
Hillary Clinton, the DNC, and mainstream media also played a pretty big role in Trump’s rise to power back in 2016.
Yep, I’ve bitched about that for the better part of the intervening 8 years. Still not sure if the establishment learned the right lesson from 2016.
Most people aren’t even aware. I’ll keep pushing that fact even if it angers people.
We all loosely share responsibility for Trump rising to power and maintaining said power, and the best way to remove his power is to pull the wool away from everybody’s eyes.
The Democrats do not represent the people or workers and they will not fight for anybody besides capital. No matter how progressive they brand themselves in the future or how much they claim to want to fight oligarchy. They have zero plan or power — they are not serious actors and my assessment of them has nothing to do with purity testing.
Well, they’re the only other game in town unless you want to sit back and let the fascists take power because people stayed home like they did this year, our hands are pretty much tied come election day. And that is a fact I will keep repeating as long as people refuse to understand that our country is run via electoral politics and no amount of sitting out will change that.
I’m all for getting better candidates on the ballot, but when the only alternative is naked fascism, telling people to stay home or not vote for them is a great way of shooting your pet causes in the foot.
Well clearly we are already almost at a breaking point just 112 days after the start of his presidency. He is ignoring due process and established rights, he is foregoing his oath to uphold the constitution, and everybody in the administration is openly breaking laws left and right. The administration is also arguably in criminal contempt of court.
Personally, I don’t think we’ll even make it 2 years into the presidency before protests of a massive scale or a collapse.
1/3 of the country doesn’t vote in the presidential election, 2/3 are propagandized or coerced into voting for the duopoly. There are many, many people who voted for Trump that likely don’t approve of him now. There are many, many people who voted for Kamala who likely didn’t actually endorse her.
If a revolution or similar event is going to happen, it’s during this presidency. Otherwise there will be no facade of democracy left to participate in when the next election is supposed to come around. The Democrats aren’t going to save us, the answer isn’t to sit back — it’s to create a new system.
But the problem is that this is the exact problem that led to the fascist taking office. The most historically unpopular president plagued by every possible crime and scandal, and the democrats run a Republican. That is why they keep losing. They keep people even remotely left of Republican, like Bernie and AOC, at arms length (at best) from the party, while propping up Joe Biden and Nancy pelosi (almost literally). And then they keep saying “this is the most progressive ticket in history!”
They’re selling out any possible goodwill hey had. Which was very little, if any. And then they turn around and point the finger at us. All while capitalizing on the fascists taking office and capitulating to their agenda, while the talking heads go on to and say “the problem is the party got ‘too woke’ and forgot about the everyday Americans!”
They have clearly failed at this since running a fake progressive in Obama, who also proved everything by running a legitimately progressive campaign in 08 and won by historic numbers. I’m not going to say it was the money behind the party that made them stop even pretending they give a shit…but it was (most likely). They are not a legitimate opposition party. And when the choices are between one of two, well that’s a massive fucking problem. And they’re not addressing it.
So, yes. There is a fascist in office. But if this foundational problem doesn’t get solved and the dems keep moving right (while the OW concept of “right” has shifted so far away from center), then the fascists will continue to radicalize, pulling the entire Democratic Party rightward with it.
That is a problem that needs to get solved before we can get a fascist out of power. Unless we’re talking…like, gonzo style.
We just need an entirely new system.
The Democrats will never be truly progressive and they will always tease at being socialist. They don’t even address major crises, like the housing crisis, the health care crisis, or the economy — they sit there and gaslight us while playing the blame game to excuse their inaction.
We need progress towards solutions, and they can’t even address the issues. How can they work towards solutions if they can’t come up with any?
The Progressives and Democratic Socialists who once voted Democrats (or who voted Democrat anyway) probably care a lot that they are disenfranchised by Democrats.
Pointing out facts is not the same as playing a blame game. Kamala ran on a conservative platform and lost, it’s a fact.