So the trump administration is fully admitting that the insurrection attempting to block the certification of the Presidential election 2021 on Jan 6 was open rebellion?
Holly shit. I hadn’t seen that last image you posted before. I didn’t realize the Jan 6 insurrectionist brought flexcuffs. That is quite disturbing. Who the fuck were they planing to kidnap or take hostage with those flexcuffs?
It’s just part of their cosplay.
I mean, I could believe that if they were just on his gear or with him, but he has them in his hand, ready to use to take hostages/kidnap people. I am genuinely curious as to what his intentions were for the hostages he was planning to take.
It was common rhetoric among the supporters at the time to hang the Democratic officials that were certifying the count and then Mike Pence when he didn’t go along with their plans, they had even built a makeshift gallows out front before the assault.
Nancy Pelosi, AOC, Mike Pence, and really anyone who they deemed to have offended their god-emperor and who happened to still be in the building.
They were probably associated with the ones that built the gallows outside on the lawn. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jan-6-gallows-construction-new-video/
They admit no such thing.
“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” - Frank Wilhoit (not the political scientist who passed away in 2010, a younger one who is alive still).
So a clone then
Heh. No a younger guy with the same name, totally unrelated who coined it in 2018 on a political science blog. I knew my wording was clumsy but was too tired to think of something better.
Here’s an interview with him by Slate if anyone’s curious.
https://slate.com/business/2022/06/wilhoits-law-conservatives-frank-wilhoit.html
You know they would say that it was stolen, don’t you?
You know they would say that it was stolen, don’t you?
Sure, so they would be saying that if the government arrives at an answer that they believes violates the law, then a violent riot is permissible.
Wouldn’t that same opinion then justify a violent riot in LA (if there actually was one) if the protesters believed due process law was being violated?
They can’t logically or rationally say one is right and the other wrong.
I know this is sarcasm but, sadly, they don’t. I have talked to a few of them. Some either say it is patriot8c and others said it didn’t happen.
You can’t win
others said it didn’t happen.
Who is it they acknowledge trump pardoned when he got into office? If it didn’t happen, then there as no one to pardon. Yet trump came out and gleefully pardoned the lot of them. If it was “antifa” that did it, why did trump pardon antifa?
Keep in mind I’m not questioning you on this but them, and I know the mind of a MAGAt is finely tuned to support cognitive dissonance.
He was just correcting a witch hunt of patriots sightseeing by the former administration./s
Brits: this is what will happen if you let Farage in.
Act now to prevent it.
In addition, the Secretary of Defense may employ any other members of the regular Armed Forces as necessary to augment and support the protection of Federal functions and property in any number determined appropriate in his discretion.
As I understand, this is not a thing the regular Armed Forces can do, correct? I thought that only the National Guard could conduct non-training operations on US soil and/or against US citizens, barring an invasion or secession. Does anyone know more than me about this?
Yes. Out of the federal military branches, only the coast guard can: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act
The country was in peril; he was jeopardizing his traditional rights of freedom and independence by daring to exercise them.
- Catch-22, Joseph Heller
Sounds like bro wants to start the plot to the movie civil war.
Is that worth watching?
Yeah it’s a good movie. But I think Leave the World Behind is more accurate to humanity at current times.
I thought so. Don’t go in with expectations. Enjoy the ride.
That should really be the rule for all movies.
Its less about the war and more about journalism and the limits of the human capacity for violence over time. IMO excellent film, amazing performance from Kirsten Dunst
Also absolutely gorgeous cinematics mixed in with the photography.
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Yeah it is. The whole film is worth watching for about 4 key scenes, and the 15 minutes are very satisfying.
“Mr President, i still need a quote.”
“Don’t let them kill me…!”
“That’ll do.”
BANG
Watch the korean film A Taxi Driver instead.
It wasn’t when it came out. It is now.
If it has the same ending I’m down.
Welcome to the rebellion.
The Confederacy was in a state of rebellion too. He’s equated standing up to ICE with the Confederate’s bombing of Ft. Sumter.
ELI5, If Republicans in general don’t want federal control, they want de-regulation, then why they are supporting federal control of California?
Because the Republican Party of smaller government and lower taxes no longer exists. Now we have the MAGA Nazis, who are for lower taxes on the wealthy, higher taxes on the poor/working class, and an much larger, extremely oppressive authoritarian police state. California has a lot of money, and a lot of foreigners, and MAGA wants to control it all.
As far as deregulation goes, that will go to the corporations that pay for it. Corps that play ball will get deregulation, corps that don’t play ball, will have their regulations tightened.
You just described every authoritarian state that has existed since the beginning of humanity. Unfortunately, I must conclude that the United States is no longer a democratic country. I do not see how the citizens of the United States will free themselves from the clutches of the tyranny that will occur in the coming weeks/months.
Authoritarian states are created overnight, but disappear after a long agony. Corporations turn into clients of the dictator because that is the only way to survive, decent people will become mute passive supporters of the tyranny with the thought “I am not like <them> and I have nothing to fear”.
Perhaps the only bright spot is that the dictator is old and has no chance of ruling for the next 10, 20, 30 years. Unless the system they are setting up is super efficient and will allow the formation of an Autocracy, a dynasty created by dictatorship. Knowing the efficiency of the American system, that is a real possibility and the next elections will be a farce.
They’re lying about that first part
They want small opposition, and they like to deregulate themselves.
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They are only against federal control when it’s them who are being controlled. They are fine with it happening to other people. It’s how they can claim to be pro freedom out of one side of their mouth and anti-freedom with the other. Laws for thee, none for me.
This is extremely important to understand. As fun as it is, we really need to move away from the gotchas. The right wing are not consistent because they do not have an ideology. They are simply reactionary.
Here we go. Buckle up and arm yourselves.
Right to freedoms of assembly and expression.
They need to chill.
And listen.
“Why won’t these fascists just chill and talk things out?!?!!?”
Yeah… not exactly their style.
Time to make that a reality.
Exactly. No federal aid money? Fine, we won’t pay federal taxes. Going to claim we’re rebelling? Well, alright then.
How does that happen though? It’s deducted from paychecks by employers. So unless a large number of employers (especially bigger ones) have the inclination and means to block such deductions on their payroll software, it won’t happen. And I don’t see a lot of larger companies wanting to jump into a legal violation with the federal government.
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What state is the payroll software company’s HQ in and where are their servers?
Depends on the payroll company. And it depends on whether they are cloud-based and which region they are hosting in the cloud. And it depends on whether the payroll software offers the feature to disable federal tax deductions from pay checks. And it depends on whether the employer using that software enabled that feature, and if they are willing to face the consequences from a vindictive government.
Edit: basically it’s a lot more complicated than just “screw it, we as a state just won’t pay our federal taxes!”, unfortunately.
You can always tell your employer that you’re paying your own taxes.
Isn’t this the same as saying *the government is working against the will of it’s populace"
So is the red line crossed yet or is the goal post once again some indeterminate point in the future.
History won’t tell the beginning of the Trump regime at that indeterminate point. It began when he rode down that piss yellow escalator.
" In addition, the Secretary of Defense may employ any other members of the regular Armed Forces as necessary to augment and support the protection of Federal functions and property in any number determined appropriate in his discretion." 100% illegal according to Posse Comitatus Act.
Deploying Marines, Space Force, Navy Army or Airforce in the US against the US is prohibited
Like this administration adheres to rules.
Minor nitpick: national guard soldiers under title 32 is totally fine (the George Floyd protests), however that requires the state governor’s approval. Trump bypassed that by putting them on title 10 orders which is active duty. Those are typically only for training or overseas deployment, and not for actual deployment within the US (though I think the south border mission may be an exception).
So, he’s already violating the law, but also putting provisions to use active duty soldiers as well which is double against the law.
National guard is specifically exempt when State controlled.it’s a question of nationalization now.
Yeah that’s what title 32 and title 10 are. 32 is state, 10 is federal. The issue is: to bypass governor approval, trump had to use title 10.
Great documentary!
I really enjoyed the ending.
When California splits from the union and their army begins enlisting/recruiting, I’d be willing to throw my hat in the ring for the cause.
Aren’t California cops on the side of the Nazis?
Can California please just withhold taxes already and put this country out of its misery?
They can’t, you pay taxes directly to the government.
There are plenty of ways around that, but it requires actual rebellion.
Yep. Totally true. You are born, and the taxes are automatically deducted from your existence. There is no way for a state to change the amount paid, or to whom the taxes are paid. Absolutely impossible.
I’m all for CA residents paying their federal taxes to the state, but that’s going to require a lot of faith that the state will protect them from the feds.
That’s not completely true.
Your employer withholds your federal taxes from your paycheck.
The state of California employs a lot of people. The state can intercept those funds, refusing to send them to the IRS. That obviously only affects state employees, but it is feasible.
The state could go on to act as a staffing agency, “hiring” workers whose labor is then contracted to private businesses. The state would then be doing the withholding for their employees, and the business would be contracting with the state.
