cross-posted from: https://news.abolish.capital/post/88742

The House Judiciary Committee Democrats have released a trove of evidence regarding allegations of sexual assault, including a new rape allegation, against President Donald Trump in relation to Jeffrey Epstein that the lawmakers say has been deliberately covered up by the Department of Justice. The 50-page report, released Monday, contains testimony from 11 women who either accuse Trump of…

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    Donald was mentioned in the files more times than Jesus was mentioned in the Bible. Yeah, I’m not surprised that they managed to find testimony from 11 different women.

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      That’s one thing, second things is that his name was 3rd most mentioned name in the released files after Maxwell and of course Epstein.

      He clearly wasn’t just a customer but part of the conspiracy. His whole modeling business was likely providing young girls to be exploited.

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        The fbi had it titled the trump-epstein trafficking case at least twice in the files before the big wave of redaction post release.

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      Trump is mentioned in the (released) Epstein files more times than Harry Potter was mentioned in all seven Harry Potter books.

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    Things that have frequently harmed children

    • drag shows
    • giant-ass pickup trucks
    • trans rights
    • pedophiles
    • gay marriage
    • missile strikes
    • banned books
    • firearms
    • birth control access
    • churches
    • racism
    • education
    • ignorance

    Who is fighting to protect what here?

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      It’s unsatisfyingly ironic that the right is virtue signalling caring for children.

      Anytime they hey outraged in defence of something. Children, women’s sports, racism (when supposedly black people were constantly attacking Asian people over covid or people are mean to Israel), it’s never actually that they give a shit about what they so vakiantly defending. It’s just that they can use it as a tool to further shit on/stomp on a different group they already did, and want to more.

      And by pretending to care about group, or cause, X it gives them, at least in their eyes, a “get out of bigotry free” card.

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    You mean the spoiled rich kid who always had what he wanted with zero regards to legality or morality and only got even more aggressive at it as he grew older, the same guy who was already convicted of rape, the guy who was notoriously friends with and a frequent customer of someone who was organizing human sex trafficking, the guy who is clearly abusing his position of power to shut down any investigation in that matter… you say he might have committed more sexual assaults in his life?

    How is this surprising anyone at that point?

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      the same guy who was already convicted of rape

      I absolutely believe he is guilty of rape but Trump has never actually been convicted… yet.

      He was found liable for sexual abuse in the E. Jean Carol verdict.

      Hopefully he’ll have rape added to his convictions before hanging for treason.

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        I think you’re being pedantic about the wrong word. The judge pretty directly clarified that he was proven guilty of rape. So if you want to be pedantic about the use of “convicted” I think a better phrase to use would be “adjudicated”.

        The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’" Kaplan wrote. "Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.

        https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-rape-e-jean-carroll-sexual-abuse-jury-judge-2023-7?op=1

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            You were being pedantic about convicted vs liable. I was suggest you instead be pedantic about adjudicated vs convicted. I don’t trust people to interpret “liable” in earnest in this context. Saying that he is an adjudicated rapist more directly states a judge [in a court of law] declared that he is guilty of rape [after being presented with evidence and testimony, without incorrectly implying that he was convicted of a criminal charge.

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              None of you guys are lawyers or journalists, so you all sound like idiots.

              what do you think he’s going to sue you? He’s a rapist pedophile, stop splitting hairs for a pedophile or his followers. They can get fucked.

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        Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll – The Washington Post, July 19, 2023

        A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal distinction without a real-world difference. He says that what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly understood.

        “The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’ ” Judge Kaplan wrote.

        He added: “Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”

        Note: the WaPo article I just quoted is footnoted in the actual Committee report the above Truthout article is about (page 4). Even the Committee report doesn’t mince words. It was rape.

        And that’s what the jury found when it convicted Trump, according to the judge.

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          And that’s what the jury found when it convicted Trump

          Might want to work on your reading comprehension. I have no doubt Trump raped E. Jean Carol, but what conviction? What criminal trial has Trump faced for any of his sex crimes?

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            The legal definition of the word convict is to find guilty of a crime after a trial. The common definition of the word is the same. The difference is not in the word, as you are so convinced, but in the type of trial: civil trials are by definition not trials of crime but fault and liability. The civil jury convicted Trump.

            You did not say a single word about a criminal trial in the comment to which I responded.

            In the words of an esteemed judge who knows far more than you (and certainly more than me) about crime, the law, and what the word convict means when properly used in a sentence, and who made that specific distinction himself, the civil jury convicted Trump.

            I think you’re finding out just whose comprehension is truly lacking – and it’s not everyone else’s.

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    Shocked. Shocked, I tell you!

    Someone who was listed over thirty thousand times in the trumpstein files-- I mean the Epstein files-- and who was proven in court to be a rapist, raped more than just one person??? Shocked…

    These people need justice.

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      11+ the 28 women who have come forward. So, 39 rape accusations. Against one white man, and people are still loving his shit, and defending him with “oh he’s just ragebaiting you lmao.”

      How all 39 haven’t killed themselves over the last decade, I’ll never understand. They’re stronger than me.

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        How all 39 haven’t killed themselves over the last decade, I’ll never understand.

        Makes you wonder how many have.

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    I normally don’t get surprised by these things, but the fact that Trump and Epstein ran the same exact script on these kids, down to promises of admission to the same university, is eye-opening.

    Same methods, same promises. All to get them to go into a room alone.

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      And it really makes you wonder about the people running the university / doing admissions for the university at the time as well. I wonder if they show up in the Epstein files …

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    The accounts were pulled together through interviews conducted by the committee, as well as FBI records and the portion of the Epstein files that have been released; the evidence was cross-referenced for timelines and corroboration of testimony between alleged victims. In all, the evidence sharply contrasts Trump’s claims that he was merely an acquaintance of Epstein, and instead paints a picture of Trump as a serial sexual assault perpetrator who collaborated closely with Epstein to find and traffic victims.

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    11000 seems more believable.

    This sick bastard wants to fuck his own daughter, you really think the “alleged” 11 would be anywhere close to the real number?

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      Who could have known that the guy who got caught saying “grab her by the pussy” while running for office could be capable of such a thing?

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        C’mon, everyone just casually talks about sexually assaulting women who are not in a position to say or do anything about it. It’s just standard “locker room talk” to have a good laugh about sexual assault. It’s just boys being boys!

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          Idk about you but IMO locker rooms have the same etiquette as restrooms. Nobody says a fucking word, absolutely no eye contact, and clean the glory-hole after each use.

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      They said that about the impeachment, they said that about the stolen government documents, they said that about a million things he’s done

      But everyone forgets, the GOP believe in “the rules are for thee, not for me”, so he will get away with it

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        This is not the time for finger pointing or litigation. Thoughts and prayers are what the victims need. They are clearly confused by their trauma.

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      We joke but the timing on this couldn’t be worse. It read more like the dems firing a warning shot.

      “This is happening wether you like it or not. Anyone who survives these midterms will fall in line.”

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      Notice to the timing. The GOP is tired of trumps shit and no longer willing to protect him. The wagons are circling.

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        That’s the idea.

        Sacrifice Trump to save their billionaire pedo deep state. Get us back to 2014 so that nothing will change or be addressed.

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        It is a matter of when, not if. They don’t need him any more, as he’s not allowed to run again. I figure they’re only hesitant in case they can rig a third term somehow, otherwise it’s only a matter of time before they leave a stray rollerskate at the top of the stairs and let nature take its course.

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          And ruin their chances to move up a rank? No way would a third term fly. On other things, you hear sycophants echoing what he says, tariffs, ice… Hell some even say the war in Iran is necessary, though more and more you hear them splitting from that. What you don’t hear is congressional representatives talking about third term bullshit. Only trump and his aides. But people who think they have a shot at 2028? Hell no. Hegseth and Vance both expect to be next in line.

          I expect him to get through November. Then they’ll start showing more of the tics he’s got going on, on red media. I would then expect to see them putting him in more stressful situations. Not just standing in front of a crowd with politicians, he loves that shit. But say at NATO, he starts getting grilled by Fox News, or one news or whatever that’s called, or other news outlets that have always been friendly, start calling him out. Publicly ask him about his record bad polling, all the proof of Epstein. Hell maybe they even just straight up release the files so it looks bad on him, but not the party as a whole. They don’t even need to give him a heart attack. Just enough to make him break down with a tic or dementia episode so bad that even his cult will ask for the 25th, out of “compassion”. That’s the best out for Republicans. And really the only way this whole thing goes down without more fascism and a revolution.