These guys are certainly the landlords of our time
Been farming most my life - and f*ck those guys, let them fail.
Industrial ag was always built on the premise of a slave labor force, and cannot sustain without it.
These men, poison their land, strip their topsoils, blame everything else when crops fail and are first in line for some big-daddy socialism, whist decrying anything progressive or sustainable as hippy commie shit.
Maybe these morons should stop voting to remove their employees. Too smart for these MAGAts.
Its truly incredible.
Their response will just be to fold, to literally sell the farm, and also at the same time never even be cognizant of the fact that they got exactly what they voted for, that Trump repeatedly said he was going to do exactly this, that lefties screamed about Project 2025 and the resounding response was basically ‘pff, he’s just bluffing,’ and then making up a fan fiction version of what Dear Leader will actually do.
They’re just gonna revert back to the ‘no one wants to work’ mantra untill we just literally put our incarcerated prisoners to work in the fields, going full circle all the way back to slavery.
These idiots didn’t even realize how dependant they were on so many massive subsidy programs untill they poofed out of existence, again, 100% in line with Trump’s platform.
Has any nation in history fucking autolobotomized as hard and as fast as we have?
Literally the world’s sole super power 20/30 years ago, and in a single generation we have destroyed ourselves in almost every way possible, short of just nuking ourselves.
they tried it with prisoners already, they arnt doing it because they are already in jail, why work when you have all the ameneties provided for you, and it barely affects your sentence.
Dude what? Our Constitution literally allows for us to continue slavery as a punishment. Why the fuck would you ever think they had a choice?
Much like how it is very easy to pass laws and ordinances that fuck over the homeless, it is also easy to pass laws and ordinances that fuck over prisoners.
The US Constitutional + Ammendments explicitly allows slavery as punishment for a crime you’ve been convicted of.
The Supreme Court has now repeatedly just thrown all prior existing legal case precedent out the window and just made such nakedly hypocritical rulings that its fair to say they are a completely biased and arbitrary institution.
The rule of law in the US is dead, is a farsical joke.
Some state will just pass a law that says uh hey, if you’re a prisoner in a facility in our state, and the state has some kind of extraordinary need, we can force you into involuntary labor.
Then other states will copy this once it passes one state’s court, then in 6 months-ish it’ll get to the Supreme Court who will say yep, checks out, carry on, and then every other red state and half the blue states will do it as well.
I am not 100% sure this will happen, but it is very, very plausible. 95% sure something like this will happen within 5 to 10 years, possibly less.
Also… its illegal to be homeless now, and the economy is crashing. Get foreclosed on, can’t pay rent, end up in the streets, living in your car?
Yep, why not crack down on that like ICE is cracking down on migrants, now you’re convicted of being homeless, the punishment is a few years of forced labor.
A few years? Optimistic, are we?
Has any nation in history fucking autolobotomized as hard and as fast as we have?
Well, the Khmer Rouge killed everybody who wore glasses because they were “intellectuals,” China killed millions trying to force city kids to become farmers during the Cultural Revolution, and I’m pretty sure other autocratic totalitarian governments have fucked themselves in similar ways. Usually when societies become illiberal, people with brains are the first to be put up against the proverbial wall.
Just to add a point - if the farmers do end up folding and selling off, who’s going to buy the land? My money would be on large corpos.
Bill Gates owns 270,000 acres of farmland already.
Yes, it would 100% be large corpos that more or less run and own many farms that same way large landlords run 10s or 100s or 1000s of apartments / rental homes.
Sorry, I had thought this was so obvious it didn’t need to be directly stated, but yeah, it’s not a bad idea to be more explicit and more clear.
No no no, they’ll vote for the GOP again, but hope they’ll force inmates or homeless people to work the fields.
I’m certain that when they say MAGA, they mean bring back slavery.
But instead of shipping in the slaves, using the existing stock
You mean slavery?
Yes, but with a nicer name.
I hope the inmates and/or indigent perform plenty of malicious compliance if this happens.
they tried with inmates already, they arnt going to do it, they will do the bare minimum or nothing at all, since they have very little to gain from it.
Don’t you guys have forced prison labour? That ought to do the trick. You can even employ Moore people that way because you need guards and fences, gps tracking on the volunteered workers and all that.
What’s funny is the old idea that book nerds know things but farmers do things is a source of pride for farmers.
The reality is that farmers are just nerds also.
Yet they think of themselves as something else, like mythical strong men beasts who feed the rest of us useless folks.
The real strong men are the very immigrants that do the literal toiling while the farmers are basically like mini CEOs by comparison
Their rejection of the very nerdiness thst gives them their mystique is ironic
They are smart enough to turn land into food
But not smart enough to realize how they actually do it
- Farmhands deported, can’t find replacements
- $200k labor grant suspended indefinitely
- Lost subsidies, making less money on product
- Tariffs jacked up equipment prices and repairs
- Depends on Medicaid, no insurance if it’s cut
Oh boy, way to seriously fuck yourself from every conceivable angle, smart guy. Sumo wrestler lookin leopards after this one.
This is just a gift for big farm.
One more: China puts tariffs on agricultural products specifically, because they know what they’re doing.
Correction: every country has agricultural tarrifs to protect local farmers, except in extreme scenarios where populations are being starved or cannot produce food by themselves.
China put tariffs on us products from states that voted for trump, specially on soy beans IIRC.
Add that any products grown for trade are sitting unwanted in fields, or for aid rotting in warehouses because the government canceled the contracts for them. Food is often held in special warehouses where the oxygen is pumped out, but there aren’t enough of those to hold all the excess that was expected to be sent elsewhere
It’s a colossal mess, with an incredible amount of waste
It’s a colossal mess, with an incredible amount of waste
Yes. Yes, he is.
That’s just good old fashioned republican efficiency. These boys better get their bootstraps and figure out which conglomerate they’re gonna sell the farm to.
Big corpos probably lining up to strike a bargain rn
At least during Covid the farms were transporting food to churches/communities at lower prices. They literally have no one now to pick up the produce. Waiting on farms to start pick your own systems like blueberry farms.
This won’t work for orchards and tree based produce. One idiot falling off a cherry picker will ruin a small farmer
What’s that? Southern states running on cheap labour can’t cope with the loss of that labour? Where have we heard that before?
Fool me once and all that, but they actually voted for it this time round…
It’s not just Southerners who are the bad guys here. A huge amount of liberals are ecstatic to exploit cheap migrant labor as well.
Capitalism exploits cheap labor everywhere around the world. It’s a feature of the system.
It’s almost as if immigrants are a big source of exploitable labor that keeps the wheels of capitalism turning. Who would’ve thought?
At least Hitler cared about Germany, or something.
???
dumbest take I’ve read today
Give me a single example that shows Hitler cared for Germany.awkward challenge to reply to, but why not I suppose. https://archive.ph/ct9xC
OK. The rigorous completion of the Autobahn network. Or, a better example I guess, is the entire reason for Germany’s eastern expansion if you ever bothered with history.
The Autobahn was made so they could send troops all over the place fast and easily.
It wasn’t originally for the betterment of Germany, it was for war.
…it’s a Rick & Morty quote.
So much of the argumentation around this topic sounds the south arguing for slavery except it’s liberals arguing for exploitative labor.
Republicans are not “liberals”, no matter how much you Tankies claim that they are. They are the very definition of Fascist.
OP meant liberal Democrats.
Yes but no. These people should be allowed in to work, legally and with workers protections. Not exploited.
Yep, forcing businesses to actually pay market rate for labour is something of an upside.
Almost like…
This called having the day you voted for
Repeat with me, class: There are no bad jobs, only bad conditions
No shit jobs only shit wages.
There are people who literally shovel congealed fat out of sewers, that’s definitely a shit job.
They get paid a ridiculous amount though.
No this can only be spoken by those in profound ignorance or utter stupidity. There are bad jobs. Go look up sewage cleaner in India. No amount of money is worth that. There will always be shit jobs.
Go look up sewage cleaner in India. No amount of money is worth that.
That’s just untrue. There is definitely some amount of money worth it.
For sure. If I got paid a million dollars a week I would do it for a couple weeks to then not have to work again the rest of my life lol. But seriously, there are lots of jobs that don’t pay what they should for how crappy the work is
Kind of a bad argument. “Look up sewage cleaner in India” implies that there are sewage cleaners elsewhere with better jobs. Making the problem with being a sewage cleaner in India a bad condition.
Ironically I agree with you. Some jobs are way better than others, making some jobs bad and some good. A garbage man will always be a worse job than an ice cream taste tester barring absurd caveats. it’s just funny to me that your argument explicitly implies a problem with job conditions.
The idea is so badly implemented… you have to raise back Unions and decent salaries, what they expecting is that actual born americans will do the same job for the same shit money that desperate migrants who have absolutely nothing.
So in essence they want the new slaves to be US born, yeah fuck that.
Society needs more unions period.
Fucking right, unions are for the people and any damn company that hates them is against giving people a working wage that gives them a life. PERIOD Fuck anti-union politicians! Power to the people!
I’m a medical student applying for residency this year, and the top program I’m interested in is at the top of my list partially because the residents have a union.
Jails…
new slaves to be US born
Prison labor. And what minority is overrepresented in prison?
The leopard of eating faces is going to become obese after the end of this year
The leopard is already on a triple bypass. By the end of the year, if it keeps going like this, they will be doing a sleeve gastrectomy.
Time for Mexico to pump up its own agriculture to supply the goods that will be needed on the other side of the fence. Labor is plenty now.
Mexican farm produce at American farm prices. That’s how capitalism works, right?
Higher than American farm prices, what with the tarrifs
Mexico and Canada have been investing in agricultural infrastructure for decades now. The only reason that the U.S. farmer can compete is due to shenanigans in import requirements. Imports are held to a much higher standard than domestic production. It’s why the majority of foodborne outbreaks are from American production.
American farmers have been conditioned to rely on cheap labor and expensive equipment. There’s been only been minor infrastructure investment since the 1970’s.
Without government subsidies and cheap labor, the majority of the farmers business models in the us is not sustainable.
Damn freeloading immigrants, staying at home and stealing all our jobs
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