• Zedd @lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    16 days ago

    Fahrenheit is good for exactly one thing: temperature for humans. It’s about the smallest difference in temperature that a human can feel. Anything 0F or below is too fucking cold for humans. Anything 100F or above is too fucking hot for humans. So instead of basing the temperature on what water does out of 100, Fahrenheit bases on how a human feels. Stupid for science, great for humans.

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      16 days ago

      It’s not any better than Celsius though - you are only saying that because you are familiar with Fahrenheit.

      Celsius

      • 0 - freezing
      • 10 - cold
      • 20 - room temp
      • 30 - hot
      • 40 - miserably hot
      • 100 - boiling
      • djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        16 days ago

        I think the larger granularity is better when talking about specifically the feeling of air temperature, if for no other reason than it keeps it to whole numbers for the sake of conversation. 76f is a pretty common temperature where I live for a lot of the year. Saying 24c is technically inaccurate, that’s noticeably colder at 75f. Saying 24.4c in a regular conversation is psychotic.

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          16 days ago

          You say 24½°C, if you really need to be that accurate, but I’ve never seen anyone care about that precision in normal conversation, so we just say whole centigrade numbers…

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              15 days ago

              Hmm, didn’t think of that, but is there no simpler way to say that than “and a half”?

              Here in German, “…und ein halb” is also technically correct, but everyone just says “…ein halb” and in my regional dialect that further deteriorates to “…a-halb”.

              I guess, “point five” is sufficiently short that you might just go for that, though. In German, it’s one syllable more with “Komma Fünf”… 🫠

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                15 days ago

                In Estonian we don’t have articles AND we usually skip the and in informal spoken language. We just say “27 half” (27 pool) for 27.5

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                15 days ago

                “and half” makes sense. I don’t recall hearing people say that here (East coast US, somewhat southern), but I could see them swallow the “a” and say something like “and’a half.” Still, I almost always see fractions written with decimals, so people just say “point x.”

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          16 days ago

          Saying 24.4c in a regular conversation is psychotic.

          Doing so is accurate, which many neurodivergent people lean toward, and generally don’t appreciate being called “psychotic”, FYI. Maybe tune that hyperbole —and no, “retarded” isn’t an acceptable alternative, either.

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            15 days ago

            Why stop at one decimal place then? If you want to be accurate you can probably add a few more on there. Rarely do we need even the single decimal point of accuracy though, and it adds two additional characters.

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          15 days ago

          We know that anything resembling knowledge in the mouth of an USian can result in bullying by the nearest jock. It’s reason enough to be afraid.

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          15 days ago

          The higher resolution of Fahrenheit is wasted on the absolutely subjective experience of ambient temperatures, especially when taking humidity into the equation. At least there is a feelable difference between 20 and 22 °C.

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              15 days ago

              No, Americans are so dead scared of decimals that they don’t even know what they are.

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              15 days ago

              Given the same number of decimals, Fahrenheit is higher resolution. It can communicate ambient temperatures slightly more efficiently than Celsius, because it is designed to do that and Celsius is not. I can definitely tell the difference between, say, a climate control setting of 70F and 71F. If I wanted that level of control with Celsius, I’d have to communicate/have displayed 3 digits and a decimal point. That is less efficient. Is that a big deal? No. Does it mean Celsius is bad? Also no. I think we here in the US should switch to metric for a number of reasons, but this would be a slight downside to switching. Sorry if that hurts your feelings of superiority but it’s the truth.

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      16 days ago

      This assumes for whatever reasons that non-scientists could not have any reason to ever calculate anything with temperature.

      If you use °C for a week or two, you’ll get used to what numbers are hot and which ones are cold. But if you ever calculate anything in imperial units for a week or two, you’ll still want to bite your table.

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          15 days ago

          Is “USian” supposed to be a pejorative? I’ve only seen it used on lemmy, usually in lemmy.ml communities.

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            i don’t think it’s a pejorative by itself; it’s just a way to uncouple “American” from “United States of America”, since “American” technically applies to all countries in central, north and south america.

            it’s more granular and easier to type i guess, though i don’t use it…

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            14 days ago

            No, just a way to avoid using American for a denizen of the US. In my native tongue it means “of the Americas”, and I dislike them too much to let them have the word.

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      15 days ago

      I will never understand this argument, how could any temperature scale be more intuitive than “0 is where water freezes, 100 is where it boils”??

      Those two things are utterly universal unless you happen to live high up on a mountain (in which case you’ll be off by a couple degrees, oh the horror) and quite possibly the most relevant temperatures for us.

      The only other objective and universal temperatures i can think of would be when skin burns and when you get frostbite or something, the latter of which is still questionably objective and both of which are… impractical to use for calibration…

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      16 days ago

      No, that’s ridiculous and arbitrary. 100 degrees Fahrenheit is already way past too fucking hot and zero is far below too fucking cold. Zero to thirty degrees Celsius is a solid cold-to-hot range. 100°C to boil water, a very common human activity, makes far more sense than 212°F, too.

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        16 days ago

        100F is when I boil and 0F is when I freeze. Fahrenheit is better for outside temperature (not baking!) Metric for everything else.

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          16 days ago

          ok but -5F is when i start to freeze and 86 is when i boil so what does that say about you

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      16 days ago

      Anything 0F or below is too fucking cold for humans. Anything 100F or above is too fucking hot for humans.

      … Tell me you’re a privileged US resident w/o using those words. 😶

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      15 days ago

      There is exactly one thing Fahrenheit is good for: thermostats. I hate that my shitty ass thermostat only has increments of 1 whole Centigrade. It’s not a huge problem or anything though, and not worth all the other crap that comes with it