I mean… that’s exactly what’s happening right now for us. Those fucking idiots at HR don’t want to pay higher salary, so we get people with mediocre talents, and the odd amazing person who will soon grow dissatisfied once they realise what they are actually worth, and how much they’re getting shafted. The whole model is built on deceiving good people long enough to use them. Because in their head, people are all interchangeable. They absolutely do not understand the benefits of continuity, and the impact of turnover. It’s just so fucking exhausting to be faced with such stupidity.
What does he think will happen here?
If you trick the person making $135k through a few interviews, they won’t change their mind and take the lower paying position.
You still end up hiring the $75k person, but with extra costs, overhead, and waste of time.
HR loves to do busywork, its to prevent themselves from being unemployed.
Why do these people always look like cursed mannequins?
…yes?
That’s exactly why we want them…?
Why are these shallow, vapid, stupid, pretend-smart pieces of shit in front of companies? Like, how the fuck have we built a society in which these idiots are successful? Holly fuck.
Because capital is more important than human happiness in our arrangement of society.
Almost realized their problem is expecting higher talent at lowballed prices.
I’m almost convinced this guy realizes it?
It’s so on the nose, surely no one is that dense
There are people that you can ask about homelessness and they will, in total lack of self awareness, wonder why the homeless aren’t cashing out their trust funds to stabilize their financial problems.
Please tell me you’re kidding.
you meet people who have never felt hunger in their lives and it’s very surreal.
When have you met these people?
mostly at church. but also school.
I have coworkers who are only there for the adult day care.
In my cousin’s case, at school. There was a girl they knew that was shocked to learn that not everyone had a private boat. To her, that was something everyone had, because of course they could afford it. Why couldn’t they?
This is in high school by the way
You would be shocked how sometimes that is true
Just checked out his profile and he seems 100% sincere, unfortunately
Recruiters, HR and consultants are very often psycho and sociopaths, they kind of can’t do their jobs for very long and not be… so… no, yeah, they are that dense, if by dense you mean craven and morally bankrupt.
They also don’t take into account, that someone might be wanting to change roles due to working conditions, family obligations etc and be willing to sacrifice some of their income, to do so.
Right exactly, if you want someone already making $135k then you should offer $135k or more.
Requiring salaries was passed as a pro-labor move. We know it increases wages over time. That’s the point.
HR would like to see you. We’ve had reports of you using toxic “logic” and propaganda on the floor.
He’s so close to a realization…
The problem with r/SelfAwareWolves is that they never were, they were never actually aware unless they were actually being sarcastic.
I interviewed for a lab position, everything was going great, and then this fuckwad from HR said starting was $18ph for a job with a required BS and multiple years of experience.
GL with that one, LMAO.
Made me understand why the reviews for the company from customers were so negative though.
this like for most biotech jobs out there, its why most people dont go into bio/tech research foot in the door they first put up that barrier as a listing , and it becomes a catch-22, its a law of diminishing returns for the industry. plus they also have preference of which “group” they will hire. im not surprised theres a bait and switch. dont know how often bio uses linkedin, but ive seen people have thier profiles for thier bio experiences if they are in that industry.
So instead you are going to spend how many hours interviewing people who will just turn down the lowball offer?
Then you can say things like “people dont want to work anymore we need ai”
“people dont want to work anymore we need ai which costs us more than if we didn’t lowball our potential employees, but hey, the investors are happy.”
FTFY
I’ve done this. Told them up front what my current salary was. Tild them directly they could meet or beat it and we’d be good. Went through weeks of interviews.
They offered me a $20k per year lower salary than what I was making. Because that was their salary for my region.
I told them that was unacceptable. That I was uo front about the minimum I’d accept. They countered with a $15k paycut.
They seemed genuinely syrprised when I said no.
@socsa It’s not just about saving *that* money though.
Anyone that accepts the lowball offer is either ill-informed, or desperate, and they would prefer desperate employees because desperate employees will bend over backwards and suffer any amount of injustice or mistreatment just to keep their job.
That’s what H1B’s are for.
He just needs something to do, otherwise he is gone.
So you waste your time interviewing the 135k guy and he obviously rejects your shitty offer?
They’re hoping to somehow talk $135k guy into it.
They’ll bait the hook with things like “unlimited” PTO because there is a chance the reason you’re interviewing is for an easier work environment, not more pay.
It won’t work most of the time but that’s why it’s called fishing and not catching.
So you waste your time interviewing the 135k guy and he obviously rejects your shitty offer?
Not just your time, your and the candidate’s time.
I think that’s the implication, yeah. Seems like this guy needs to get taken out on a walk to the end of the pier on a nice day. Go see all the pretty fishes. Maybe watch the sunset.
yes, so they can then post about how nobody wants to work anymore
Charitably the best i can come up with at least the business would know they’re not offering enough if people keep rejecting them. But then that’s the status quo and all evidence points to wage suppression so clearly they’re just making up bullshit to justify wage suppression.
My wife applied to a job this weekend, no salary mentioned at all and a required field on the form was her salary expectation that would only permit a single number, no letters, not a range.
that’s literally pushing wages down. fuck the free market let’s rig it for myself to profit.
this is straight up quiet part out loud stuff.
“If people knew I was going to underpay them, they wouldn’t apply for a job!” 🤡
“We’re trying to trick you into giving us more value than we pay for.”. What a genius…
It’s almost as though you’re not supposed to get that person because you’re not fucking paying enough for their talent… 🤔
To be fair, there’s plenty of $135k people who shouldn’t even be making $40k for their “talent”.
Meritocracy is a myth.
