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"Fascist raids by law enforcement should be met with:
I don’t know.
I can’t help.
I do not know anybody’s legal status.
I have no idea who is an immigrant.
White folks are used to being polite and accommodating to cops.
Do not fall into your old ways.
For once, your silence will not be violence. STFU if the cops come looking for your neighbours. No matter how friendly.
Fascism only works if we go along with it. Fascism only works if we surrender to it.
Resist.
Do not say a word about your neighbours. As far as the cops are concerned you’re a recluse who doesn’t talk to anybody where you live."
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Is this a thing?
Do cops literally come to your door and ask if you know any immigrants?
That’s wild.they just raided a restaurant I think. though I’m not sure they asked people questions about neighbors I think they just violated the 4th amendment and asked for papers.
Maybe not to your house, but I’ve been asked at a previous job.
I know who’s an immigrant. Unless your name is like “Wind on Water” when translated, you’re an immigrant.
For at least the time being, we have the right to remain silent through the 5th amendment. Providing false information can incriminate you. Providing no information at all cannot (exceptions may be providing personal identification, licenses and registrations, look up your local laws). Know your rights and exercise them.
Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice
I always forget that not everybody had a Buddhist hippie uncle and aunt doing lessons with them on the weekend.
My cousins and I will randomly say, “What is (Uncle’s) number one rule?”
And everyone present will chant a phrase thst would dox me, that boils down to “don’t help the police!”
We can all play a part. Mutual aid means using whatever you bring to the table. If you can, think of it like a video game or a tabletop game. I look like I do and made a lifelong practice of learning how to talk to people. Now I have a high diplomacy check (and sense motive.) My boyfriend spent most of his life in the military, and his capacity for violence makes him the barbarian. Together, we are prepared to help in many, many more ways than either of us could ever do alone.
And the bigger your circle, the more situations you’re prepared for! If you haven’t yet, take an honest assessment of your skills. Figure out how you can most help others. You don’t have to be an S rank talker or violencer, you can be bad at the skill you pick! The important thing is to pick the skill, *then work on it. *
Even if you don’t have a circle, if you’re all alone, you can be preparing yourself to help others who need it. You are valued. You are loved, even if you don’t know it, even if it’s easy to feel like you’re not. And when you eventually find your tribe, or when your tribe is being attacked, having skills to help others and yourself is the best thing you can do.
Chaos A.D.
Disorder unleashed
Silence means death
Stand on your feet
Inner fear
Your worst enemyFortunately for me, Im a recluse who doesn’t talk to anyone where I live
I was on board until you randomly called out “white people” for no reason, to no benefit. Good job pissing off an ally for no reason.
Were you ever really an ally though? Seems like you’re looking for an excuse not to be.
Stop being controversial. Why would I want to hang out with a bunch of people who hate me because I’m white? This is a dumb conversation.
Stop being dramatic. You took a statement about white people being accustomed to cooperating with the police and turned it into “people hate me because I’m white”.
Racism
are they wrong tho? white people historically have been entirely complicit with cops
Why is it okay to group white people together and not any other race? Its an economic/historic thing, not a race thing. It also varies by country and geography. Stop being racist. Stop being racist. Stop being racist.
I don’t think you understand what racism is. racism is when a group that is historically disadvantaged is prejudiced against. like black people, for example, who have had an entire power structure against them both historically and presently in this country. you cannot be racist against white people because there isn’t a power dynamic there. you can be prejudiced against white people, but racism implies an uneven power structure.
This is objectively wrong. You can be racist against anybody, color aside. Stop it. Everyone deserves fair treatment, including white people. Just give it up; you’re in the wrong and you’re not doing any good for the movement. You’re just making more enemies by being prejudice.
You literally cannot.
jesus my friend you should go read some literature and hopefully reconcile some of your opinions with yourself. I reccomend the wretched of the earth by franz fanon.
edit: and for the love of god, no one hates you because your white. that’s taking the original post wayyyy out of context. even if you could be racist against white people (which you seem very intent on believing even though every expert opinion disagrees with you), it wouldn’t be racist to say white people historically have sided with cops and turned a blind eye. just like it’s not racist to say black people have historically been disadvantaged. because it’s a true observation that isn’t pushing any kind of narrative.
Get off your high horse; I don’t need to go read literature to understand what’s going on here because it is plainly evident. I have come across entire handfuls of these posts on social media; Lemmy, Reddit, and Twitter where people want to blame this amorphous concept of “white people”, “whiteness”, or whatever specific terminology they use to suggest white people are some master class responsible for their misfortunes. The real divide is financial, which is why you see class traitors of every race and background rise and become corrupted in office. Clarence Thomas is the perfect example of this, just to name a single one along with basically any black police officer or politician who chooses to abuse their position.
I already mentioned somewhere else that basically every race has abused and marginalized every other race at some point in history. Race isn’t the inherent problem, but the desire to be superior for literally any reason. Today’s means to superiority is financial accumulation, combined with political power. Just because a small percentage of white people might be disproportionately putting other white people in positions of power, does NOT mean that “white people” are to blame. The abusers just happen to be white, and the nuance is important. It’s the same if they were black, yellow, red, or green.
Your example is also poor because you’re picking and choosing examples. On one hand, we have people accusing “white people” of wrongdoing because they are “white people”, which would be the same as me saying that “black people” are responsible of crime because they’re black. The real problem is not that they are black, but that they may be disadvantaged, which isn’t an inherent trait associated with their race. Them being black doesn’t make them bad, the same way that a white person being white doesn’t make them bad, even if other white people are wrong-doers.
And yes, you can be racist against white people. There is no definition that suggests racism is only possible against a certain type of person, which is ironically the exact definition of being racist.
Stop being racist. Look outside your social media bubble and accept that black people can be racist against white people, along with literally any other race of person, and that racism is on full display in the original post here. And it’s on display with you for the entire world to see.
ain’t no way you truly believe the only determining factor in someone’s opportunities is financial. the only racist here is you. I only hope you can mature enough to realize that someday.
^ Classic white person giving lectures about racism and how they’re actually the victim of it.
Excuse me, sir! Your privilege is showing.
Hey maybe try to have more good faith when engaging with posts like this. They do not have to #notallwhites to get the benefit of doubt that they are aware that ehite folks can be and are allies
Or just leave my race out of it and call out the actual people who are doing the bad? Novel idea.
call out the actual people who are doing the bad?
Brother take a look at who is doing the bad. Who is assisting the bad?
All the hipocrits in this thread pretending to stand against racism, and then exercising it themselves.
This isn’t about you.
White people’s race does play into this, same as non-white people’s race does. If you’re white (passing) it’s unlikely the ice is gonna show up and throw you into a van.
Trying to make this about you is shit. Nobody cares.
They made it about me when they called out “white people” as a whole
This is very clearly a post for the united states where the history makes the game. What other ethnic groups in the good ol’ US of A have been historically complicit with the police and systemic oppression?
Answer: once ethic groups stop being oppressed here we start calling them white. Irish and Italian immigrants used to be non-white until it became convenient to bundle them in.
Then you are not and never were an ally. I have “White Fragility” by Robin DiAngelo on my reading list. You might consider adding it to yours as well
Sounds like racism to me
https://imgflip.com/memegenerator/459874481/Everything-I-dont-like-is-woke
But substitute in “racism”.
The problems is that there are many people who, even when they themselves are generally powerless and under somebody’s boot, positively relish the opportunity to feel superior to somebody else by helping press the boot on them.
Sadly, some of the oppressed are only meek or nice out of fear because of where they are in their power structure they’e in and when they get or are given the power to do so without consequences, turn into evil oppressors.
Right. This is a call for people who haven’t already made that choice, to make it. Now.
Since generally there are at least a few assholes around who will totally enjoy the “power” of fucking somebody else’s life and often the assholes don’t even behave like assholes in every day life (because they usually don’t have the power to be assholes with impunity) so one might not even be aware of their low moral characters, merelly a “if you this to not get involved you won’t be helping the Fascists” line of advice is not enough.
There has to be something beyond that, at the very least so that wannabe assholes fear being spotted and suffering reprisals if they do act like assholes, which if you want to make it as above the Law as possible (rather than merelly “I know which car you drive and it would be a shame if it got damaged overnight”) does require some form of involving the community to create a perception that those who rat will get into trouble with the rest.
The problem is not simply solved or even significantly so with a mere “don’t tell the pigs anything” (i.e. “Do No Evil”), even though those who act thus do gain the moral high ground by acting like that.
I’m sorry that I myself am not really offering a concrete solution, and my contribution is just pointing out that a Passive-Aggressive approach won’t really do much more than slightly delay the Fascists and their dogs.
The problem is not simply solved or even significantly so with a mere “don’t tell the pigs anything”
Nowhere is this being touted as a solution to the entire problem, this is advice on how to act in a specific situation, and again, a call on people to make that choice on where they stand, now, because now is the time, not once they’re knocking on your door, then it’s too late to start considering how to act (and if someone has already decided to, or hasn’t but defaults to being a collaborator, they get lumped up with the fascists they enable).
The only proper response to a door knock is “come back with a warrant”.
Rights are rights for a reason, don’t let that shit erode any further.
Start playing “come out ye black and tans”
That’s a song about people standing up for their rights and for those of others, doesn’t really apply to the US, let’s be honest
Most will be sitting on their pile of guns, quivering with fear
The ramblings of deranged cowards?
How much time have you spent in Northern Ireland?
The hell does that blog have to do with Norn Irn?
It’s a modern society
You referenced come out ye black and tans, and are currently shitting on the idea of an armed populace, I linked a resource for armed socialists and you shit on that too. I asked about if you’ve ever spent any time in Northern Ireland, and you dodge the question.
What this tells me is you have no understanding of what you’re talking about. Feign solidarity with a historically oppressed people. Finally you’re using other’s struggles to stir shit on a public forum with little regard or understanding of what you’re saying.
I would invite you to head up to Derry. Pop in a pub, start up a rousing chorus of Come Out Ye Black an Tans and stir the same shit. Lettem know how great a violent struggle is, ask em to tell the tales of their troubles. See what community outreach you find there after that.
The only proper response to a door knock is to not open the door.
If the fascist pigs have a warrant, they’ll find their own way inside anyway. Otherwise, they can stay the fuck out.
Sorry to disappoint, but
they’ll find their own way inside anyway.
Warrant or not.
Still, there’s no point in making it easy for them. The sooner you accept that your rights won’t be protected, the sooner they’ll disappear entirely. You must act as if your rights are natural laws of the universe, and if enough people do then they may as well be.
You must act as if your rights are natural laws of the universe, and if enough people do then they may as well be.
That’s how we get to where we are now.
Rights dictated to you by the state are categorically not universal nor natural, they exist in service of the state and the capitalists who own it, and they can and are withdrawing them as they please.
The entire point of the post is that people who have more privilege need to stand the fuck up for those who have less, not try and find ways out of doing so.
Edit to clarify: giving the cops the pleasure of kicking down your door and arresting, or even shooting you for “resisting” isn’t making their job harder, only yours.
That is fine while you have the rule of law and independent institutions to enforce those rights. When those institutions are eroded or facing the barrel of a gun then people’s rights might as well he written on toilet paper.
You can’t make up for a dysfunctional political system with demands for fictional rights.
People from one particular notable country always get the emphasis wrong in my opinion. Perhaps they are all brainwashed. They think the rights uphold their system when in truth it is the system that upholds the rights. It has kept them blind to the reforms needed to breathe life into a system that barely qualifies as a democracy by modern standards.
They think the rights uphold their system when in truth it is the system that upholds the rights.
Totally stealing this.
I’d also like to take this moment to remind how to handle a police interaction in the USA, in a one minute video described by a few lawyers: STFU Friday!
I grew up in a small town on the border when the border patrol would ask us if we had seen any aliens we would always just look up and say I think I saw one flying around up there
This is the way.
Why the need to single out white people? The blame goes around to many groups.
With regards to talking to the police follow the advice given in this video named Do Not Talk to the Police.
Ah, yes, “not all white people!!12*”
But somehow also “not only white people!!11” (my morbid curiosity kinda wants to know who the fuck else you think christo-fascist white supremacy* is serving, benefitting and protecting, but my sanity demands I don’t engage with you any further).
Which amasses to “I’m too busy centring myself* and my whiteness*, and finding a way to claim some victimhood in this situation, to hear what those who are actually under attack are saying”
Check your fucking privilege*.
That is if you’re even willing to examine your white fragility
*If anyone needs image descriptions, please ask
Non-whites have never been police, never talked to police, never voted for the Evil Party and shouldn’t be included at all in advice to not be evil, misguided or duped.
Note: 16% of black voters and 43% of latino voters in the U.S. voted for Trump.
If you need a /s at the end of that comment to get the sarcasm you are really really bad at reading context cues.
I think I am, yeah. Edited the original reply now to turn it into a sidenote :D
I watched this video 12 years ago, and again just about every year since.
It’s basically the most important video for anyone (especially Americans) to watch and understand.
Hard disagree.
Tell them you know where to find lots of heavily armed illegals up to no good, and give them the names and addresses of any Maga friends and family members you know.
Maybe lie that their last names are Sanchez or Ramirez. Waste their time and energy. If they come back, just shrug and say you thought your racist Mom/dad/uncle/supervisor was an illegal but thanks for investigating.
“I don’t know, but people are telling me they’re named Sanchez” but don’t do the Trump voice.
Richard Sanchez. Saw him with a minor, doing dodgy stuff. Maybe stealing, or attempting to steal something. Heavily drunk.
Well said. There needs to be some kind of democrat’s handbook on how to handle a facist state.
They aren’t here to help either. Just another flavor of wolf in sheep’s clothes to support the super wealthy that run the country. Though this one seems a little less capable of malice. I still can’t tell if that’s a sliver of morality hanging on the through a beating of self ineptitude.
You’ve jumped to a conclusion. There’s a reason I wrote democrat with a small d.
Can you point me in the right direction? I tried doing an internet search t understand the difference, but I’m missing the core concept you’re alluding to here.
The other commenter is correct, I meant democrat as in ‘supporter of democracy in whichever of its incarnations’ as opposed to Democrat as in ‘supporter of the US Democratic party’. Sorry if my comment came across as a bit hostile
It’s all good. The lucky 10,000
In my understanding they mean “democrats” as people who support democracy vs “Democrats” members of the democratic party, but if you ask me, they are one and the same, it’s just another way to say “liberal”.
That makes way more sense now, thank you.
You say that as if you think the Democratic Party is something other than White Moderate (in the MLK sense) Collaborators. They will certainly not be the ones to write such a handbook.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15–style_rifle
The finest multi-purpose rifle ever designed by man.
Anyway, what were we talking about?
That’s weird, your link doesn’t go to the M1 Garand. You must have had a copy paste error.
(I jest, the AR-15 is really a very flexible and efficient multi purpose platform)
That’s weird, you said the M1 Garand but surely you mistyped “Mosin Nagant.”
Please explain the axial scar on your thumb
It’s perfectly normal, it happens to all guys sometimes.
so… in the age of digital surveillance, no one needs to ask other humans about each other. most humans willingly or unknowingly give all their data, like location, identity and more
you could point everybody in the direction of privacy, which might actually help disenfranchised peoples (if you ignore facial and gait recognition, voice and emotional analysis tracking throughout most cities…)
not legal advice, and not advocating anyone doing anything illegal of course
It’s a bit too late for that, the digital information is already out there, and trying to hide any of it now wouldn’t be much use against physical door to door/workplace/school/church raids anyway.
well for other “law abiding” peoples, we should train them. since there were rules against eating specific icecreams on certain days in the US and the nazi party in germany retroactively enforced new laws, so things can change quickly
Train them to what? Retroactively scrub their presence off the internet? Off of the government records? Impossible.
Really not sure what point you’re trying to make with Nazis and ice cream, but either way, laws don’t exist to protect citizens, and going forward, they are being written to actively harm them.
Expecting the law to protect you is a huge privilige.
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