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What’s literally traumatizing are the scumbag sites that wait a little bit before showing you an email popup.
Like, I’ll be reading something and then BLAM! I’m immediately taken out of my focus and have to, for the 1 billionth time (and counting!), refuse to give them an email address.
Fuck everyone who encourages this bullshit. Fuck everyone who actually gives them emails. It’s likely an extremely low percentage of users, but that’s all that it takes to ruin things for the rest of us.
Scumbag sites like that are actively contributing to lowering everyone’s standards and making us get used to a ‘new normal.’
it’s likely an extremely low percentage of users
its not, its actually a pretty high percentage, the conversion rate of pop up email form to static forms in the footer or header are like night and day. Static email sign up forms are lucky to see a 1% conversion. The average pop up conversion rate for emails pop up with incentive (like a discount code) in 2024 was 7%.
If people stopped filling out the pop up forms they would go away, but people still continue to bite so they live on.
26: unsubscribe from the email promos that the site automatically signed you up to even though you didn’t check the Subscribe to newsletter box, which requires you to log into the site and find and uncheck all the boxes in the “contact settings”.
26a: Note that they will simply add more categories over time and helpfully subscribe you to each of the new ones whether you ever visit the site again or not.
Unsubscribe? You mean report spam
Unsubscribe is for real suckers only. When someone clicks that I always imagine some goon elbowing the guy next to him and saying something like, “look Keith we got another” unsubscriber" over here!" With a big goofy grin on his face.
If the email is from a legitimate business, they must have an unsubscribe button and it has to work. They get a little time before they are required to process the request, 10 days in the US, but I’ve usually seen it take effect immediately.
Don’t click the unsubscribe button in an actual spam email.
If you didn’t ASK to receive emails from them, it’s spam and it should be reported as such.
Fuck unsubscribing from things I didn’t subscribe to.
Report spam? You mean deactivate single-use email.
Alternative to 7 they have this stupid magic email login where you cannot set a password but have to go to your mails everyone you need to login
I had one the other day, choose to login with password or the magic email link. I know my password, let me in fucker. Oh no, you still have to go to your email and click on some link to verify it’s really you.
Alternative to steps 6 through 17: refuse to use any webstore that doesn’t allow for guest check-checkout.
I’m pretty sure we could make this into a satirical puzzle game.
You would defuse a connected bomb by remotely shutting it down through an awful mobile app.17a. Reject prompt to set up a pass key.
Take my upvote because you made me laugh; however, in all reality pass key is more secure, and should be used when available.
Passkeys aren’t so bad. Just switch to a password manager that stores them for you, preferably a self-hosted one if you’re technically inclined.
20b : shipping is abusively eating up the low price
While it sucks, I think that’s better actually. Let me cook lol
Websites that ship for free have to factor in the shipping into the item price.
Which means that if you order a lot of items at once rather than separately, you get no reward for being more sustainable.
Shipping costs ensure that people don’t make inefficient, single-item orders unless they really need to.
waits to order stuff until there’s a few things needed
free shipping not available anyways unless you hit minimum order of 50.-
proceed to order 10 things at once
each thing gets shipped in a separate package, on separate dates…
even the 20x 1cm M3 screws that you originally needed come in a cardboard parcel, by themselves
packages keep arriving randomly at your place for the next 5-10 days, leaving you with a pile of cardboard
The shitty idea is that you have to make an account and lots of jazz before they tell how much shipping is.
Also, instead of 25€ for the product and 8€ for shipping, surprise!! the 18€ product magically needs a special courier for 15€ to ship it.
After registering, verifying your email, and logging in, they say they don’t ship to your country.
20C. Realize this is not the best price on the product. 20D1.
For i in range (your_breaking_point): if i == your_breaking_point: break Return to step 1.20D2. Get an email saying “You forgot something in your cart”
Step 4 is a bit optimistic. Usually when I search something there are 30 products of what I specifically don’t want before finding the single listing of what I do want.
Recent example. Needed a 8v 1A transformer
Searched AC to AC 8v 1A
Every listing on the first 3 pages were universal AC to DC adaptors that didn’t have an 8v setting. the dials all went 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 12.You may have already figured this out, but a variac would fit the bill.
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Yes, e commerce sites which want revenue, developed a search that worked and then broke it to give you less relevant results, hoping you will go to the competition.
It is well known that companies have revenue. Line must not go up!
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It’s been a long time since I worked on e-commerce but what you say makes no sense. Search is hard. Humans are unreliable. Data quality is shit, especially if you allow third party participation. It’s hard enough to do it without shenanigans.
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Google is not a shop. They do want you to click on ads, you are the product after all. They cater to their customers, the advertisers.
For Amazon, I don’t remember that ever being supported. Even if it was, code needs to be maintained and if people didn’t use it, it doesn’t make sense to keep it. They have metrics for that.
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Don’t worry. Soon you’ll be able to subscribe to a service where an AI will just order products you don’t actually want for you.
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How people can deal with internet without adblockers like uBlock is just baffling. Not only ads, but also all the cookie banners and phone app popups and other crap. uBlock will filter all this shit out so you just use the website without junk and annoyances.
I’ve used the original Windscribe back when it was still a regular x86 app that acted like a local proxy and would filter out ads and banners. That was early 2000s iirc. Even back then I couldn’t stand all this crap. Today I can’t imagine browsing without uBlock or at minimum with DNS filtering which can’t apply cosmetic filters or more advanced rules.
DNS level ad blocks have been a huge game changer for me. When I play games at home, no ads. Then when I go out and play those games, I forget that they have ads.
For me setting up Android phone without it. Installed some app and got bombarded by all the ads and shit. Something I just don’t even know on mine.
AdNauseam. It clicks all the adverts. Yes, this is actively malicious behaviour. No, I don’t care.
Malicious against advertisers, beneficial to the site you’re visiting.
That’s a win-win in the desolate place we call the internet today.
Just want to post this here for anyone not aware… uBlock “medium” mode. Kind of an unadvertised feature that has to be enabled in a strangely obscure way (I think they want to make sure you’re not a complete idiot).
Still, pretty easy to set up, and much more protection than the default (but also not nearly as frustrating as “hard” mode or whatever they call it). Basically, most sites you visit are going to be broken the first time you go, but you enable elements you need for the site to load, then save those settings for that domain. Takes about 30 seconds or so once you know what you’re doing and you only need to do it once per domain. Basically, I keep 1st and 3rd-party scripts off completely most of the time. It’s relatively rare that I absolutely need to enable 1st party scripts on a page for it to load.
It’s kind of like uBlock + noscript learning mode. The element zapper is clutch as well, but that’s not unique to medium mode or anything.
Windscribe was important because every bit of bandwidth saved mattered. Less so with 2.5gb fiber connections to home.
I actually didn’t care so much about bandwidth back then even though 56K modem was ass. It was the ad banners that drew me nuts. Especially since that was the era of flashing and blinking GIF and Adobe Flash banners. I got 1Mbit ADSL a bit later and that’s when it was even less important since bandwidth was unlimited. Banners were still there tho and were just as annoying.
Missed the step towards the end were you have to switch browser and restart the whole process because “Firefox not supported” or you’ve an extension that’s a bit overzealous on blocking the checkout popup window.
Blocked an ad that fucked up the css so dramatically that the checkout button is now permanently stuck at -10% of viewport.
I tried to order chicken teriyaki so it would be ready for my wife to pick up en route home. Website requires a login. Make it. It doesn’t log in after creating the login, so log in again. Password wrong. Reset password. Finally get in. Get to last step and there’s no button to send the order. Fortunately, I’d wasted so much time that my wife was already there standing in line.
I assume it’s just formatted for mobile, but when I’m sitting at my computer, I’m going to use it, it’s always faster. Except when it doesn’t work.
Call next time?
But… I have to talk to a human?
😱
I wasn’t that hungry anyway.
The times I go in there they’re like “Use the website!” I feel betrayed.
And I wasn’t looking for solutions, just griping.
Ah yes I had to learn this from my wife don’t give a solution just nod along. I gotchya
Ha, I’ve “learned” the same thing from my wife. Definitely still learning, though.
Blasphemy and heresy.
Fuck this is accurate
IMAP and/or Authenticator skips step 8 to 14.
How does an authenticator help here?
I know that 2FA is not that convenient, but it greatly improves security. Especially for users who use the same email password combination for multiple accounts
Cookie dismisser extension, bitwarden for passwords and 2FA codes, uBlock origin for annoying popups that can’t be removed with DNS blocker directly.
There are ways to reduce the pain somewhat, but they shouldn’t be necessary in first place.
(Well, hoomans and passwords are an issue that can’t be solved easily, but the push for passkeys has been a nice nudge in a more secure and more usable alternative.)
Consent-o-matic is a life-saver
You don’t need an extra extension for the cookie notices. Just use uBlock Original for that:
Under Filter lists enable “Cookie notices”Does it just disable them or does it click on decline first?
That should be the same if you’re in the EU since they need active consent for tracking
I like to tell people that using uBlock origin means the computer doesn’t have to render images and text in adds, so it is actually more environmentally friendly to have it installed than running the browser raw.
It’s a thin argument, but I’m happy to see that some people have jumped on because of it.
what the fuck do you mean hoomans
Caught my eye too and it feels eerily reminiscent of the alt-right “coomer” and “consoom” kind of vocabulary, although I stress the word “feel”
It might be a reference to the Ferengi, from Star Trek. They say “human” in a weird way to demonstrate their mild contempt.
It means you’re an uncultured swine it’s never seen an episode of Star Trek.
What browser are you using? Chrome pushed it’s new extension requirements and killed ublock. Firefox just dropped a bomb about selling personal info I think.
Firefox, naturally. The personal info stuff is still unfolding and being clarified. Will switch to Librefox or Waterfox if stuff gets bad.
