• MiniMoose4Free@lemm.ee
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    3 days ago

    It’s unfortunate that this educated woman’s husband felt the need to speak for her when she is fully capable of speaking for herself.

  • themaninblack@lemmy.world
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    I’m sorry but I have a neuroscience degree and I think this is a fart sniffing post. The broader point is real though

  • Dorkyd68@lemmy.world
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    I’ll take things that never happened for 500 Alex

    This reads like a shower argument I have when alone

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      The fact you don’t have any friends that would stand up for their wives like this is more an indictment of you and the company you keep

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        All of my friends would stand up for their wives. That’s a wild assumption you’re making

        The fact you take things so personally speaks volumes about your life.

        I’m not your dog, kick someone else dork

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          So why is it so unusual that somebody would stand up for theirs? Why is this a thing that doesn’t happen?

          You said it doesn’t happen.

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            The whole sequence of events seems unlikely to have happened particularly if you’ve never been dragged to a company meeting by your spouse. Where people absolutely drink and forget not everyone wants to hear their political hot takes like ‘‘there were only disagreements when they started letting women vote’’. But my hard line stepping trigger personally is people smoking Marlboros. Like seriously. Smoke camels, or actually get 30 feet from the door. No one wants to smell that shit. Plus I have asthma.

          • Dorkyd68@lemmy.world
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            Bruh, you’re misunderstanding the point of my og comment. I wasn’t saying someone wouldn’t stand up for their partner. I was saying the entire argument sounds made up

            Sorry you didn’t understand and think I beat my wife when she speaks, lmao grow up and touch some grass

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              The argument is, some dude insults a guys wife and then he stands up for her. And you said it “never happened”. How exactly are people going to interpret that?

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                Do you hear yourself??? Do you actually speak with real humans in real life? My dude or dudette just go away already

                • bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net
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                  Yeah, usually people are accountable to their words, or speak and write with some intention.

                  So you are going to refuse to answer, how does what you said, make sense, in the context of the other thing you said.

                  If you don’t want to admit that it doesn’t, fine by me.

  • WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today
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    In a normal society, there would be high pressure against this kind of behavior, and people would need to be tested at least once a year to stay educated. You don’t really have free will if you can’t make rational choices.

      • bradd@lemmy.world
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        “if men listened to actual intellectuals like the doctor you’re addressing…”

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          Ok so like this shouldn’t be too hard to explain. I assume this is your first time on this planet? Well it doesn’t matter. Sometimes someone will say or imply two separate things in the same sentence. An example might be something like ‘have you seen my new green pencil?’. Now these things might not always have a relation – new and green do not necessarily imply one another. But they have a semantic link nonetheless. Doctor does not necessarily imply intellectual, but may be considered relevant. Idk man stop getting upset

  • hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world
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    Joe Rogan is a caveman, but I hate this mentality.

    I’ve had a ton of horrible experiences with doctors. Misdiagnosis, given bad medication, bad medical advice, etc. A common trait all of them had extreme arrogance. They all thought they had all the answers, and that modern medicine was infallible.

    If you had an issue they couldn’t put a clear label on fairly quick or weren’t responding to treatment in a textbook way, then that was somehow your fault. Either you were lying, or exaggerating, or it was all just in your head.

    I’m not alone in this experience. Basically every American with any sort of complex health issues has had a bad experience at the hands of someone who claims to be an expert. That’s on top of the medical establishment letting bad medicine go on for years, because they are extremely reluctant to admit they don’t have all the answers.

    Obviously, none of that makes Joe Rogan any sort of intellectual or trusted authority on anything except bro science. How you can’t expect people to have unflinching trust in doctors when doctors let people down so often.

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      Amen friend, I lost my mother this year because of a group of doctors that didn’t want to even consider the fact they might not know what they’re talking about.

      She had pneumonia for 4 months. It wouldn’t go away because these doctors would treat her for 3 days. Then sent her on her way, convinced they cured her when they didn’t. She would be back in the hospital less than a week later. The stress of it all eventually made her go into cardiac arrest multiple times. On her certificate, it lists the pneumonia and the heart as cause of death.

    • WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today
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      I gave up on getting tested for ADHD. They would not even run the tests! I don’t really care if I have it, I just want to be sure, so I know what to do about whatever is wrong with me.

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        I’m sorry to hear that! My PCP referred me to testing based on a very short conversation and ultimately just because I wanted to be tested and know. I hope you can find a better doctor!

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      Yeah, doctors aren’t perfect. Does that mean that my doctor, who says that you should get vaccinated, is on equal footing with RFK Jr., who says you shouldn’t? No.

      I don’t have “unflinching trust” in anybody, but I’d trust a board-certified doctor before I trusted somebody like RFK Jr.

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      I think on this particular example, the focus was less on the medical doctor aspect and more on the PhD. The woman has achieved the pinnacle of institutional knowledge in her field by fostering her intellect while dog breath across the table talks down to her about muscly podcast man who told everyone to take horse dewormer for COVID.

      I agree using “doctor” as an indicator of intellect can fall short, I think that is tangential to the point her husband was making. Also, good husband stepping up to bat when the coworker starts mansplaining to his wife…

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        Joe rogan is pure shit, but the pinnacle on knowledge in one specific field does not mean the pinnacle knowledge in everything else.

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      Um… if you look at the post again, you will find that the doctor in question is a PhD, admittedly in neuroscience, which does produce results used by medical doctors. But there is no indication the woman in question has ever, or will ever, practise medicine in a clinical setting. For that matter, there is only the inference from the mention of a US podcast that she is even American, mmm?

      But, then, I infer from your userrname that you are male, and from your post that you are American. So I am not, at this point in history, terribly surprised if you have jumped to a wrong conclusion about the actual content of a woman’s doctorate.

      Signed, another woman with a doctorate that has nothing whatsoever to do with practising medicine in the USA, although you’d never know it from the number of Americans who immediately tell me their symptoms upon introduction. (Ah, yes! I think Napoleon died of something similar on Ste. Helena. Or possibly he was poisoned. But then French history is not my field, either.)

      • hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world
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        You’re right. At least doctors have actual experience in the field. There are legions of academics who have never actually attempted to apply any of their knowledge to any sort of real life situation, have an extremely limited ability to function in the real world, and somehow are even more arrogant than medical doctors by an order of magnitude.

        Case and point, this comment. The natural conclusion of anyone without an extreme superiority complex is that I just mildly misread the OC because, like the vast majority of people, I spent like 10s glancing at this post before commenting

        Meanwhile you have your head so far up your ass that you immediately launch into an incredibly pretentious rant that somehow manages to stretch a three sentence point into three paragraphs, each of which is somehow more insufferable than the last.

        Everything about you gives off the energy of someone who thinks they are better than everyone else because they can quote Foucault at will, and thinks the reason why they can’t seem to make connections outside of their field is because people are too intimidated by an “intellectual”.

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          Ooooo. You know, that would have been painful, had it not been so entirely off base. Thanks for the laugh…

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        I think any of us who have worked in academia can say something very similar about the other kind of doctor. I do feel like it may be a situation where it’s just that the more vocal ones are ruining it for everyone, but we’re getting heavy into anecdotal data at that point.

        It sucks, but the anti intellectual crowd does legitimately have a lot of places to point some fingers.

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      Seriously though. I don’t think I’ve actually been helped after having gone to the doctor my entire life (I’m 24 for reference).

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        So, you’re 24 years old and healthy? Color me shocked.

        What would you do, say, if you broke your leg? Would you go to a doctor? Do you think that they’d be able to help you?

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      Doctors sadly are drilled to produce results in an industrial manner. Strange edge cases are relegated to research, but if a doctor has to work off many patients, a patient who needs thought or patience is just irritating.

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          I’d say it’s currently an issue of the medical system being vastly overwhelmed. We don’t have nearly enough staff to handle the many health crises in the country, and it doesn’t help that many preventable cases get ignored for a long time (out of fear of overpaying) until they require far more extensive treatment.

          As such, doctors don’t really have a choice but to rush their visits and take overbooking.

  • StopTouchingYourPhone@lemmy.world
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    I schooled another man about my wife’s competence. A doctor’s a doctor! - title of this as a moderately upvoted repost on reddit with mostly positive, supportive comments

    Thank you to all the good men who defend their wives like DH did for me! We love you! - title of a less upvoted and commented on reddit repost the next day

    OP: My husband’s nazi coworker was blatantly sexist to me at a company dinner - “where do you live dumb cunt imma swat your house,” “men are people too, not everything is nazis, feminist bitch” brigade, “why are you dividing the movement for equality” Civilized Discussion and Debate, redditcares messages in her inbox

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    Pride of Ignorance. Its something we should bully out of people. Nobody should be so proud to be so dumb. Its fine to be dumb, but nobody should revel in it.

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    There is nothing admirable about letting a fascist rant about hate and nonsense, while the ape of a host goes “never thought of it that way, interesting” while legitimizing the nonsense