The power trip / ban doesn’t bother me, but the misinformation does. They present as leftist, but flare up around US elections discouraging voter turnout via ‘bOtH siDeS’ garbage. that only ever elevates shit like MAGA.

In the linked thread, OP promotes rioting while discouraging voter turnout. My comments agreed with activism like riots, but pointed out that it’s not an either-or thing. You can riot -and- vote; and even if you don’t have it in you to riot, still do vote.

Banned.

You can see my removed comment quoted in the post after mine.

This ‘blue MAGA’ tankie shit is somehow worse than the loud-and-clear MAGA shit over on Reddit - at least those neonazis were honest about who they were.

Anywho, YSK. Spaces like r/conservative were clearly labeled and easy to avoid; LateStageCapitalism@lemmy.world presents as a cause worth rallying around, but only until you peel up the veneer and see that they’re the same fucking thing.

Also please vote. In addition to whatever flavor of activism tickles your fancy.

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    Note to all: This is not the place to get on your “VOTE” soapboaxes. Stick to judging the moderation action.

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    Tankie outreach community with mods that are pro Russia and censorship heavy. One of them loves responding to comments they’ve deleted. LW does nothing like usual in response to problematic moderators. PTB.

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    Being banned from latestagecapitalism is an honor. They have conservative mods. You can be banned there for criticizing conservatism or saying things that are too far from Fox News talking points.

    Not really sure how or why we end up with conservative mods in these communities, but it really ruins them.

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      LateStageCapitalism is run by a sole moderator who is either a foreign shill or so stupid that they’re doing their work for them for free.

      He bans anyone that goes against his narrative. I am by no means the only person that has spoken out against that sub and its mod. It’s becoming public knowledge at this point that the sub is compromised.

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      They have communist mods, I think they’re Marxists. I’d respect you more if you at least said you’re against the “extreme left” or something like that instead of pretending that everyone who isn’t liberal is conservative or secretly conservative.

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    I see OP has multiple comments that are all deleted. A reply quoting their “you should vote” comment isn’t deleted. There are comments still up like:

    What prevents you from voting and rioting at the same time?

    There is absolutely no reason to not vote.

    To me it looks like something else triggered the ban.

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      It could have been another one. I expanded on my stance that discouraging activism or voting is an act of support for the status quo, specifically MAGA. Maybe that crossed the mod’s line. /shrug.

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      It’s so that other people can still pile on. Telling people to vote is against LSC community rules.

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        Support for capitalism or for the parties or ideologies that uphold it are not welcome or tolerated.

        It looks like they’ve got razor thin margins on what they allow.

        -You should vote ✅️

        -You should vote for the party that isn’t measurably making you life worse. ❌️

        They’re guilty of “both sides bad” in my opinion. An endorsement of any mainstream party or candidate breaks their rules.

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          Saying you should vote would also be supporting capitalism or the parties/ideologies that uphold it.

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            I’m sure you will tell us which modern country with a democracy isn’t operating some form of capitalism. Functional people deal with the cards they are dealt to choose the best possible outcome, not imagine the best possible one and make believe.

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              The comm has rules, they may be completely idiotic but they are unfortunately clear enough that can’t complain about them making rules up. It isn’t like most comms with “no politics” or “no promoting violence” where they inforce is in a wishy washy way.

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                First of all,

                The comm has rules, they may be completely idiotic

                Yes, so people would complain. Do not suffer fools. They also cripple any real discussion about “Late Stage Capitalism”.

                But this would be assuming your leap of logic was correct, which it isn’t. The rule is:

                3 No capitalist apologia, anti-socialism, anti-communism, or liberalism, liberalism is in direct conflict with the left. Support for capitalism or for the parties or ideologies that uphold it are not welcome or tolerated.

                You don’t vote because you support everything a party does, specially in majority wins all election systems. I’ll quote myself again:

                Functional people deal with the cards they are dealt to choose the best possible outcome, not imagine the best possible one and make believe.

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    LATE STAGE CAPITALISM IS AN INVALID SUB RUN SOLELY BY AN ANTI-DEMOCRATIC CRYBABY MOD THAT BANS EVERYONE THAT DISAGREES WITH HIM AND HE IS MOST LIKELY A PAID FOREIGN SHILL.

    Not sure how many times I have to keep pointing this out, but I will because fuck that loser.

    Mod’s name is GodlessCommie (lol) and he spreads anti-voter sentiment and runs the sub as his own personal cry space that you can only take part in if you support his narrative.

    He is stupid, dangerous, and most likely being paid by people who want to see American decline.

    Do not participate in that sub and let everyone you can know not to as well.

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      I got banned for violating rule 4 (no “lessor evil rhetoric”) despite specifically writing a comment not to include “lessor evil” rhetoric and then having the audacity to call out the mod to show where I broke rule 4 in my comment.

      Fuck those guys. I was very motivated to report the channel, but I’m not 100% sure that I’m not just being a butthurt little bitch, gonna give it a few days to simmer, and to see if other people continue to have issues with their moderation. Still though, feels good to get a ban badge from them.

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        lessor evil

        Lol. That moron mod doesn’t even know how to spell “lesser”.

        Yeah, I thought about posting on here after that idiot banned me, but didn’t feel like it was worth the effort. But at this point I’ve seen multiple others complaining about that fool and his sub so I’m glad they’re taking the time to post about it.

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      Where else? I can’t stop seeing far right/russian propaganda. I don’t even want to use this app anymore, it seems like that’s all there is here, along with very mean aggressive manipulative accounts.

      I don’t know how to stop it. I can’t even down vote the shit, or comment at all anymore because I think a mod silently banned me from multiple places or something.

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    I think I will opt for civility and choose to endorse free speech, whether in an echo-chamber or not.

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    I find it weird how they remove comments of people with massive upvote ratios. Like arent those comments the community overwhelmingly agrees with? How are they justifying consistently censoring their community this way?

    PTB just because of that

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      Things can be both popular and bad for a community and/or breaking its rules. It’s obvious that this isn’t what’s happened here, but upvotes alone aren’t everything - you could probably get a lot of upvotes with a good meme in any discussion community (because who checks what community a post came from every time before upvoting), or post an inflammatory political take that is bound to get a lot of comments that mods now have to deal with.

      Here however, the Mod simply disagreed.

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        Yeah, but even so, these are just totalitarian and absurd rules. They’re destroying freedom of speech because they’re compelling the language and speech to only what they look as acceptable. That’s certainly just minifascism.

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      How are they justifying consistently censoring their community this way?

      The sole active mod on LateStageCapitalism is an insufferable crybaby who is either an accelerationist or a paid foreign shill. If you go against his narrative, you will be banned. It’s a trash sub that shouldn’t be used by any reasonable person.

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    If you care about a community, make another one, the way lemmy is setup you get just as much visibility as a popular one

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    The comment of yours they removed:

    Who gives a fuck if it’s actual democracy. Vote for whoever has the best shot of keeping the greater evil out of office, and use that time to sharpen your guillotine. Again, you don’t need to pick just one.

    The reason given:

    Rule 4

    Rule 4:

    No imperialism, conservatism, reactionism or Zionism, lessor evil rhetoric. Dismissing 3rd party votes or ‘wasted votes on 3rd party’ is lessor evil rhetoric.

    Instance-wide rule 4:

    Do not post illegal content of any type. Do not engage in any activity that may encourage, facilitate or provide access to illegal transactions. Do not share or encourage the sharing of abusive or sexually suggestive content involving real or fictional minors. This also includes drawn, animated, generated and other content that does not depict real minors. Any violent or otherwise inappropriate behavior involving a minor will also always be strictly prohibited.

    Based on what you said, compared to community rule 4 as well as instance rule 4, this is a PTB

    Reported the mod team to the LW admins for review.

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        context on lessor evil rhetoric:

        Dismissing 3rd party votes or ‘wasted votes on 3rd party’ is lessor evil rhetoric.

        They defined what they consider it. By their definition, this doesn’t apply.

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          What they said is “Dismissing 3rd party votes or ‘wasted votes on 3rd party’ is lessor evil rhetoric.” So now we know that “Dismissing 3rd party votes or ‘wasted votes on 3rd party’” is “lesser evil rhetoric”, but that doesn’t mean that other things cannot be lesser evil rhetoric, e.g…the exact quoted comment.

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      GodlessCommie, the sole active mod of LateStageCapitalism has set the rules up in such a way to give himself carte blanche to remove anyone that goes against his narrative.

      He is quite possibly the most insufferable mod in the entire Lemmiverse and has made that sub his own private cry space and destroyed the sub’s credibility.