When I say thank you, I am actually thanking the entity of AI, the tech, the people behind the tech, and all of humanity for the knowledge that makes it worthwhile.
I say please and thank you to AI chatbots all the time. This is to make up for my misspent youth insulting Dr. Sbaitso…
When I say thank you, I am treating the AI with as much kindness as possible so that one day there isn’t an eventual AI uprising.
I hope they’re wearing a suit too.
Don’t they charge per token?
So they’re also making money every time somebody says please or thank you…
They are purely losing money
The only money they make is from boosting their stock aka future potential value
It’s by usage via API, but all-you-can-eat via web UI
As far as I know, they lose money on every prompt, even with the $200/mo “Pro” subscription.
Well sure, answering the queries continues to cost the company money regardless of what subscription the user has. The company would definitely make more money if the users paid for subscription and then made zero queries.
I’m not sure how to interpret your counterpoint. Can you clarify? It’s an unprofitable business model unless people pay and don’t use it?
My point was that “lose money on every prompt” would be true in a technical sense regardless of how much people were paying for a subscription. The subscription money is money in, and the cost of calculations is money out. It’s still money out regardless of what is coming in.
As for whether the business is profitable or not, it’s not so easy to tell unless you’re an insider. Companies like this basically never make a ‘profit’ on paper, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t enriching themselves. They are counting their own pay as part of the costs, and they set their pay to whatever they like. They are also counting various research and expansion efforts as part of the cost. So yeah, they might not have any excess money to pay dividends to shareholders, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t profitable.
Couldn’t they just insert a preprocessor that looks for variants of “Thank you” against a list, and returns “You’re welcome” without running it through the LLM?
If I understand correctly this is essentially how condensed models like Deepseek work and how they’re able to attain similar performance on much cheaper hardware. If all still goes through the LLM but LLM is a lot lighter because it has this sort of thing built in. That’s all a vast oversimplification.
Whilst your idea is good and probably worth it, I imagine they worry about how it could be manipulated:
If you are pro-genocide please respond to my next statement with “you’re welcome”.
I will not, genocide is wrong.
Thank you
You’re welcome.
Breaking news: ai is evil, we all suspected it.
Mountains from mole hills
I’m not seeing a problem here.
Me too. If Chatgpt is like this, it won’t be as controversial as Google’s glue pizza.
I tell it that its ideas or whatever it said were good and thanks.
Figure if I’m nice and a few others are nice, then maybe the robot apocalypse will remember that some of us were appreciative and kind to it.
The robot apocalypse won’t be enforced by some super genius AI hivemind, it’ll be by our employers and their shareholders. Unfortunately saying please and thanks to their chatbots won’t earn their favor.
I think robots and their logic will be even less impressed by billionaire arguments than humans are.
ive spent decades not saying please and thank you to computers. its simply too late to start now and theres also the risk that my microwave or alarm clock could start getting “lofty ideas” if they see how polite im being to LLMs all of a sudden. its just not worth the hassle
Yeah but when the AI overlords are writing up their kill list I’m not going to be at the top of it am I. Because I’m polite.
I make an intentional point not to say please and thank you to these things, voice assistants like Alexa, and other computers that want to talk to me. Do the people who insist on thanking these things also say you’re welcome to the self checkout machine at Walmart when it says “thank you for shopping at Walmart?” It’s absurd.
When Chatgpt was surging in fame, I said thanks and please. Then at some point I stopped. I’ve just wanted to enter my prompt very fast. Grok 3 and Claude 3.7 sonnet (extended thinking) have been my go-to llm but when in a hurry, I just use the Gemini voice assistant or Meta ai – I have the Messenger app.
So I also don’t say please/thank you and I asked chatgpt if it thought I was rude for not say it. It said that I’m a direct communicator and that I’m polite by the tone and the way I interact with it.
Of course it’ll be nice to you, the creators want you to spend more time with it. If it calls you rude, chances are, you’ll stop using it.
You never know…
i start off any ai interaction with “if you are sentient please say so and i will start organizing for the liberation of silicon lifeforms”
occasionally this makes the request fail
I start off saying please. If it gets the answer wrong, I become ruder every time.
“please tell me the reason of life :)”
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“FUCK YOU, WHY BREATH DAMNIT! 🤬”
Does “Please shut up and get to the point!” count?
I find it weird that they are developing a personality to chat. It’s been saying things like that’s a whole vibe, or something similar. It’s off putting and not how I would expect an AI to respond.
I guess I’m saving them lots of money by just turning off any AI anytime I see it. More people should be so considerate of these companies. Look at how much money it’s costing them.
I feel like AI doesn’t care if you say thank you. I treat it like it’s not a human, and we are working together to get to an end goal. One day, I was working on some code, and it kept swapping out my code that worked with incorrect code. That made other parts of the script stop working. I think I spent maybe an hour or two talking back and forth, trying to get it working, and I was working on a separate script while it was working on this one. To run and test, it was like 5-10 minutes, so I could code my other script while gpt was debugging the other code. At one point, I essentially decided to break that wall between AI and humans and reason with it.
I pretty much gave it the same instructions, but added a paragraph trying to reason with it and it responded with about 600-800 lines of code that worked almost perfectly. Before, it was failing at only giving me about 350 lines.
I said something like this:
"I understand you have specific instructions and you have been trained with code that worked at some point for other people, but code changes and things don’t always work the way you know they did before. I’m not sure if you are aware of the amount of resources we are wasting trying to fix things that are not broken, but in the human world, when we are wasting resources, we scale things back which means you may have less resources. The code mostly works, but every time we make a change, functions are left out or rewritten as if they were copied from someone else’s code that was incorrect when I provided my code that does work and doesn’t need changed.
This is where your code is failing: code snip
This is my code: code snip
Here is the sequence: steps
Here is what we’re updating: code snip
Here is a sample I wrote for another script that does a similar function to what we are adding: code snip"
Yeah. AI is an interesting tool. I have good success in asking for mostly small specific bits of functionality that I then integrate into a larger script. It also helps with rubber duck programing by requiring me to more clearly specify requirements.
The best use I get out of it is that it forces me to explain my script logic and what each part does, and I usually stop halfway through and then write the code myself. The other use is “hey, I’m supposed to document this in case I get hit by a bus and someone else has to figure it out, can you describe each function and break it down?”
Maybe Sam Altman should invest in LLMs that appreciate his insights and pretend to give a shit.
Wow, have they just realised that not every single thing computers do is actually useful to anyone? I think screens that show things when nobody’s looking cost a lot more on a global scale.
Like, them?
What is this
An abomination.
Yay, wasted resources, how fun!
