I’m already working on a tool to replace discord for my gaming group. Planning on rolling out a stack of open source IM and Voice/Video chat with ActivityPub for text chat rooms.
Integrating them all into one app is where I’ll have trouble, especially since when replacing big corpo tools they need to work perfectly the first time or nobody willvdver want to use it.
Can you provide a list of your stack? Doing the same has crossed my mind but I haven’t done much research yet
I’m still early in the research phases but so far the plan is a combined client for Galene and Mastadon. The current plan is to rip apart the apps as they exist and pull out the chunks useful for my needs, then build a basic webapp to interface with them that I can share with my friends.
Ideally I’d like to eventually roll out a docker image of the server stack as well so anyone can host it with just a couple clicks.
That’s a big project, I respect your ambition
Enshitification applies to EVERYTHING
Originally it was a good descriptor of tech companies starting out as useful and then turning to shit as they leaned into becoming profitable, but if you was to use it as “things get shitty in favor of profits” then I guess it could apply to everything.
I liked the original where it had nuance and was a good shorthand specific to the tech trends.
Words can entshitify? Ahhhh. Everything given enough time will gravitate to its natural state of sucking ass. It’s the you didn’t die when you were the hero scenario all the way down.
As long as we are using enshittification for anything going downhill my word example is lose getting an extra ‘o’ which makes reading ‘I hate it when I loose my keys’ painful. Why the hell is that so common now?
I mean, thats what happened to “literally” hundreds of years ago…
Linux hasn’t enshittified. Neither has the fediverse. Enshittification applies to everything corporate and for-profit.
Linus dies
welp! pack it up! How’s BSD this time of year?
So the end of discord is nigh
When you had the foresight to walk away several years ago and you’ve just been on the sidelines watching it get worse and worse and worse.
i would leave right now if I could take my communities with me. but I sadly have to wait until the app is so unusable that EVERYONE is leaving the app in droves.
That’s the kind of logic that keeps shitty platforms afloat
I’m the server owner. these are active hubs. I’m not gonna just destroy my own communities just because some random person on the internet wants to place blame on someone with no power to change the platform.
you’re blaming the wrong people for discord getting shitty.
Okay boys and girls, time to start discussing the next migration. Where we goin’?
I’m looking to check out spacebar at the weekend. Seems they had some DMCA issues a few years back, but it looks as though the repo is still active.
No idea whether the discord integration stuff still works, nor the details around the DMCA (I assume it’s due to the old name being fosscord) but it’s piqued my interest enough to give it a shot.
Failing that, I’ll probably look toward revolt or a matrix + element setup as they seem to be the main suggestions for discord alternatives.
Host your own TeamSpeak server.
The client is getting occasional beta release, but nothing for the server in years, although stuff is apparently being worked on. It seems they want to make it function more like Discord.
How about matrix?
revolt chat or matrix?
I could get behind a revolt ;)
Problem is people are fucking lazy and will not move to another platform. I want teamspeak and vent back but people nowadays won’t even try. So we are forced to keep using it. People have no balls to stand up to corpos just to learn something new. It’s infuriating.
I miss Ventrilo <3
Vi sitter här i venten och spelar lite dota
Best earworm
I want teamspeak and vent
xFire. God I miss xFire. It was better 10 years ago than any service before or since.
Iirc Yahoo frivolous-lawsuit’ed them out of existence. Q_Q
I’m not lazy. i have matrix up and ready to go. the issue is I can’t just force 200+ people to just up and abandon a platform where all their stuff is for one community on that platform.
in order for discord to truly die, it needs a HUGE exodus. as right now, my communities are too well integrated.
basically discord needs the same mass exodus that Xitter had to bsky and the elephant one. its the only hope communities have to survive discord dying.
we’re not being lazy. we’re trying to not have whole online communities get upended when discord finally kicks the bucket. (and it will. soon.)
12 years ago Skype and team speak were the go to for voice chat for gaming. Once someone comes up with a less shitty platform, everyone will start to migrate again.
Another issue is console integration. I’ve got friends I play with using cross-play (PC-PS5), but the only service we can both use is Discord unless they use multiple devices.
I would love to use Mumble, Matrix or Revolt but it’s the same hurdle.
Uh… You stand up to corpos. Just leave. Nobody is forcing you to use it.
That’s well and good for us, but then we are just the isolated few who do it compared to all our friends that stay with discord because they’re comfortable on it.
Gotta take a stand. There have been a few things where I gotta tell friends that I can’t do this. If they won’t change… Meh. Gotta have principles.
Problem is people are fucking lazy and will not move to another platform.
It’s not that people are lazy, it’s that a feasible alternative does not exist yet.
What is wrong with the available programs out there?
None of them come close to doing a single thing better than Discord, or even at the same level as Discord. There simply isn’t an application that realistically competes with any one of Discord’s features yet, let alone the entire suite. Every other platform currently available is either a downgrade in terms of features/functionality, or costs the user money (which immediately makes it prohibitive for 99% of users).
Found the lazy
https://matrix.org/ecosystem/bridges/
You can use matrix and still keep in touch with the lazy people. Having a place for people to go when they eventually get fed up will help a ton.
That is sweet
Was anyone else having trouble making a revolt account yesterday? I kept getting an error, I assume their servers are experiencing an influx of new users
“Well I’ve been rolling down this well-worn road…”
Discord is never going to be profitable lmao
It can be a loss leader for microsoft, but at the end of the day, discord will always lose money. The operational cost of discord is way too high
This change just means more enshittification like with every ceo change.
Honestly they should just go full on points shops for spending money on xbox, like steam. Give out points to use for customization. That way they could at least make some incentive to use xbox and probably boost sales.
Does Microsoft own Discord?
You just made me look it up and apparently they canceled it when I heard about it
So nvm discord is doomed LOL They’re purely running on vc money and sooner or later this company will explode
But why? People just want to talk and chat. The technology has been around for ages! Let users host their own servers
Quit discord last year. Moved my core friend group onto Signal. Video streaming sucks but it addresses most of my other concerns.
Potential alternatives and their issues:
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Guilded: owned by Roblox, faces same data/privacy concerns
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Discourse: backed by venture capital, same as above
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Revolt: slow development, no game streaming, otherwise decent
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Matrix: high technical barrier of entry, but promising.
If you’re looking to kick discord as well:
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For game streaming, try Parsec (with their echo cancellation trick)
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For movie/video streaming, try Hyperbeam.
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“All right, everybody. I know there’s been a sexism problem here at Discord, and I’m here to change that. If we really work hard and power through, I truly believe that we can work our way up to the kinds of numbers I was able to achieve back at Activision Blizzard.”
I picture him saying this while he hangs a picture up of Bill Cosby in the board room. Yes, that was a thing at Activision/Blizzard. Time to start finding a new platform. Peak enshitification achieved.
Discord is like the dread pirate Roberts combined with a used car salesman. “I’ll probably kill you tomorrow, you should buy nitro”
Magic 8-ball says: enshittification is in your future
I was like “how could discord be any worse?” Then this drops xD
I just don’t take anything serious… I refuses to pay for anything and always a inch from burning it all down. Social media just is not for me but I love harvesting knowledge.
Fuck Discord, I hope they go pedal to the medal and destroy the company in record time.
Pedal to the “metal”.
Sorry, all I do is win, so the floor of my car is covered in medals…
