i wonder what y’all have to say about this
Lmao at lemmets being so offended here
I choose not to think to overthink this. Bringing up a kid has its rewards and as comic points out, sacrifices. Most parents gladly do whatever necessary so their kid has the best life in this world, and this comic just pokes fun of a phase of our life where we think more of our selves than what our parents offer up for us.
Bad taste? Sure, but sometimes bad jokes are the ones that get the point across and lit most discussion around the topic.
Just my 2 cents.
This post appears to be at odds with c/childfree and c/suicidewatch.
Really kinda gross that their kid gets zapped and they immediately celebrate.
No wonder the kid hated them. He knew.
Parents, go hug your kid and tell them you love em.
Parents, go hug your kid and tell them you love em.
Better yet, use birth control and don’t condemn another life to this shit hole reality in the first place.
Uhhh, you good?
No? How are you?
I don’t necessarily think that comics that have toxic messages are inherently a problem.
I think a perfectly reasonable parent would relate to the comic at some point. Read as more of a vent post I get it. So long as it’s recognised as a toxic perspective and is indulged as a temporary way to air their grievance in their own head I think it can be helpful
I feel nothing but revulsion and disgust for the person who made this comic.
It places its sympathy towards parents, which is nonsense. They’re the ones who choose to bring the child into existence in the first place. They should fucking bear the guilt and try and make up for it as best as they can.
i don’t know who wrote it but i think it might’ve been a kid who drew it. I’ve often felt like my parents hated me (i hated them for that too) and i’ve often contemplated leaving. i’ve always came to the conclusion that they would be happy if i did so, or if I killed myself. I never did because I was 10 years old and I was scared what would happen to me and i didn’t exactly have the means to kms.
Boomers gonna boom.
When I was 6, I told my mother I hated her and she threw away my entire Pokémon card collection. I think my hatred was probably justified. (I had a holo Charizard, bitch could have sold it for grocery money.)
My parents treated me mostly fine, though I’m fairly certain with my father it was fairly conditional, I was just careful to not get on his bad side. Now not so much.
Even with acceptable or even good parents, I still find everything to be fairly existentially unpleasant. I resent being born.
That said, despite that I still love my mom. Shes a good person despite having given birth to me.
Have you read Emil Cioran? He’s got a lot of interesting thoughts along that existential pessimism.
I’ve not read any of his work but I am aware of him. I suspect that I’d likely agree with him on a lot. But I’ve also read that reading his work would probably make me even more depressed about being born.
I tried Camus’s “nothing matters so make up a meaning you like and run with it” for a while, which I think works for one’s first few existential crises.
The clumsy solution I’ve stumbled on is viewing this all as a war against entropy and evil. Anger is a feeling that has escape velocity, that even if one feels crushed by the despair inherent to being human, you can at least pick up your “weapons” and keep tumbling on.
There’s some positives in the experiences and small pleasures, like art and discussion and philosophy, but it’s mostly a fight.
I think Planescape: Torment explores a lot of these ideas in a way that’s a bit less “despairingly” nihilistic. The “best” ending means the Nameless One spending eternity in hell fighting in a pointless brutal war - but it feels correct, it has meaning.
I mean, seems like these parents never wanted kids. It’s amazing how many pregnancies are accidental. I wonder how many would actually have children if everyone had 100% control over when to conceive.
I am glad I’m making the people around me suffer because they deserve it. 😈
Ngl, this post really doesn’t send a good message. Is it true for some people? Probably
But my parents pushed me into 3 days of tafe, 2 days of uni, and 2 days of work a week when I was younger. It caused me to crash and burn
It honestly makes people who are already doing a lot feel like they have to do more to make up for what their parents have given up for them, and that’s just unhealthy
I had to move away from that mindset, and something like this really wouldn’t have helped
Lemmy hates kids and people who have kids, though
My comment is sort of inflammatory for no reason, sorry I made it. Deleting
Damn, just you look at this goomba. Galoomba even.
Ngl, this post really doesn’t send a good message.
Have you like… seen the internet broadly in the last 20 years?
Literally what I think would happen if I disappeared. This is kinda a dangerous post for people with suicidal ideation.
Your existence would be retroactively undone, with the every physical trace of your existence being erased?
I’ve been watching Mr Rogers lately since I have a young kid now and I think thats the way to act. Even people he might disagree with he would have a chill discussion and respect their opinion, just letting them vent their problems.
I commented sone of this in response to a popular comment below, but since you asked for general impressions:
I take this as an anti-natalist statement. Anti-natalism has some implications of nihilism for those already born, which is to say: If I think it’s unethical or wrong to have children, due to the suffering inherent in living a life (or caused by the negative externalities of reproducing), does that logically imply that I must blame my own parents for my conception, and wish never to have existed (though not, necessarily to end my own life, of course, as that would bring further suffering)? If we are not going to be nihilist, and instead choose a more utilitarian approach with a cost-benefit analysis, to what extent does the added value of reproduction (from your effect on the future, fulfilled biological imperative, and any derived joy from interaction with the birthed individual) outweigh the loss of quality-adjusted life years from health implications of reproduction (especially for the mothers)? Is the risk of negative outcomes high enough to resolve not to reproduce?
Kids cause pattern hair loss?
Stress.
The trick to being stress free is to get older without any kind of family, to work yourself to death consumed entirely with your bank account high score, and to consume, consume, consume forever without any thought to the next generation.
Fuck, this comic makes me want to have kids more, just because of how bleak and shallow the worldview is.
There are other things you can do other than mindlessly grind for wealth or drag another non-consenting consciousness or two into existence.
Shame the comic doesn’t explore that.
But also, its weird to claim babies are “dragged into existence” since there’s no way to establish who wants to be here.
If we’re going to entertain non-existent people who don’t want to exist, we are obligated to consider non-existent people who do want to exist.
If we’re going to entertain non-existent people who don’t want to exist, we are obligated to consider non-existent people who do want to exist.
People who are happy to be alive does not “pay” for bringing someone unhappy into existence. In fact if you really think that you can justify all sorts of morally reprehensible things.
But that isn’t precisely my point.
Let me repeat: No one consents to being born. You cannot ask someone ahead of time if they’d like to be born. Any person born owes absolutely nothing to their parents and almost nothing to everyone else other than basic respect. Until of course they themselves give birth, and then they owe an infinite and unpayable debt to their children.
Even if your child is perfectly content being alive throughout their life, they did not choose to be here. You brought them here and thus you still owe them a debt.
People who are happy to be alive does not “pay” for bringing someone unhappy into existence.
How are you evaluating happiness absent existence? Hell, how are you evaluating happiness, period?
Even if your child is perfectly content being alive throughout their life, they did not choose to be here.
How do you reach that conclusion? We’re all just bits of matter, assembled in various shapes and configurations.
He was here before he was born as matter. He’ll be here after he’s dead as matter. All life has given him is senses to perceive his surroundings and agency to affect them.
Are you arguing a given child would be better off inert? Are blindness, deafness, and paralysis virtues?
How do you reach that conclusion? We’re all just bits of matter, assembled in various shapes and configurations.
Because… inert matter doesn’t make decisions…
How are you evaluating happiness absent existence? Hell, how are you evaluating happiness, period?
As long as you accept the premise that some people are happy and some people are unhappy, I don’t think measuring it for precision matters.
Are you arguing a given child would be better off inert? Are blindness, deafness, and paralysis virtues?
They wouldn’t be a child if they were never born to begin with.
Just need a bit of DHT inhibitor, which is cheap because its out of patent.
Hairy arms liek a cactus on that guy…
Don’t laugh, do you have any idea how hard it is to live life with cactiarmitis? The budget on winter jackets alone…
The guy miraculously cured male-pattern balding?
I think stress may be a factor in losing your hair
Absolutely. But not male-pattern baldness.
Not untrue, but also the parents are shitty for not being responsible for making their child happy. Like… going by this thinking, a lot of people should just murder their parents and inheret everything.
Depression is a disease, not “your parents not making you happy”.
It’s not gonna be cured with a bit of care and smiles, fuck off
There are many situations where a person being miserable is not depression.
The comic is gross either way. What do you think about the comic?
