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      This part is both mind blowing and hilarious. Not too long ago they were screeching that “they are trying to make everything sharia law!”

      Then they do this, with absolutely no sense of irony. The dumb runs so deep that its turning to magma.

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        The same idiots cheering this on would gaslight me and try to tell me there is “no such thing as xtian Shariah Law” when I’d point out that the talibangelicals very much want xtian Shariah Law here and have been pushing for it for as long as I’ve been alive.

        I know better. Just because (of course) they don’t call it Shariah Law doesn’t mean it isn’t the exact same fucking thing.

        The only reason they hate conservative Muslims so much is that game recognizes game, and let’s face it, if you change up a bit of doctrine, Muslim extremists want almost the exact same things as xtian extremists, and the xtianists have FATWA ENVY like you would not believe. They are very pissed off that more of their flock are not murderous thugs, too.

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    Absolutely appalling. But I can always scream st my representatives louder. Though thats not working so guess what’s next?

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    Religion is a belief. School curriculum is made based on facts and experiments over time. They should not be combined.

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      Religion is made up fairytales that adults still believe in.

      Honesty a guy praying to Jebus is no different than a guy shooting hadoukens from his wrists.

      Yet one is called spiritual while the other is called childish…

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    It’s funny that they clearly aren’t considering that religions other than theirs also exist. That’s the whole point of the Separation of Church and State. Your arbitrary religious views have no place in government or governance or public spaces… because others have other beliefs, many of which likely stand in stark contrast to yours, and the permutations are endless. Leaving your religious biases out of public life allows us all to coexist.

    But lets ignore that and see what happens. Looking forward to The Satanic Temple having a presence in all public schools. Maybe muslims can get the Five Pillars and Buddhists can get the Noble Truths… and we’re just getting started.

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      They’re not ignoring it, they’re fully aware, and it’s the whole point. They want an official state religion to suppress all others. They’ve been perfectly willing and able to blatantly ignore facts, evidence, and existing law and jurisprudence to benefit one religion over all others.

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    I wasnt going to have kids and the world keeps enforcing my decisions. If I had to deal with religion aimed at my kid I’d actually lose it 💀

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      Actually no. Refusing to vote for a genocidal candidate, regardless of which side of the aisle or gender they are, is always a good choice. We are not free until we are all free. I demand my politicians not just be the lesser of two evils. I hope you can too. Cuz the drive to vote for a democratic candidate cuz they are not as evil is what got us here in the first place.

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        how’s that working out for you?

        sometimes being an adult means doing distasteful things… both candidates supported genocide… 1 of the candidates also wasn’t racist, economically literate, determined to exterminate the poor, and destroy what little democracy you had

        get the fuck over it… you have 2 bad choices and your lack of choice contributed to this

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          He had one bad choice and one meh choice. There was plenty of progressive legislation in Harris’ platform. These people didn’t get 100% of what they wanted and sat home like entitled children.

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        Honestly at this point I consider those who peddle this narrative either bots or literally worse than those who are captured by the cult of MAGA — because they have “reasoned” that giving MAGA free reign makes them morally superior to those who voted for the Democrats. But I have to ask:

        Do you basically just… Not believe in harm reduction?

        Because the argument seems to hinge on the idea that you’d refuse to engage in behaviors that reduce TOTAL harm because there would still BE harm.

        I agree that none of us are truly free until we all are, but I fail to see how outright christofascism AND genocide are the preferable outcome for you here. How exactly does sending people to El Salvadorian work camps and secreting away protesters improve our foothold on this issue, exactly?

        If your idea is that, if gets bad enough, people will have enough anger to fuel your dreams of an uprising of some kind… At the end of the day you’re STILL using human suffering as a bargaining chip while patting yourself on the back for being exactly the kind of non-resistance that MAGA relies on to gain power and momentum.

        Tl;Dr: I really fucking hope you’re an account made for astroturfing and not a real person because “dogshit take” is too soft a descriptor for this line of thinking.

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      There have been no new Supreme Court nominees since the election, so even if Harris had won, it would not have changed this.

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      No, I didn’t vote for either. It was pretty easy to vote against Harris, while also voting against this. Maybe next time the Dems should run a candidate that at least pretends to care about what the voters want. That tends to help in elections.

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            If there is a next time, I will absolutely say to vote lesser evil again. Without a workable alternative, that is the option. I still see no workable alternative. Longshot third parties with ~1% polling are not a workable alternative. Vague revolution composed of ~1% of the population is not a workable alternative. When you have a plan, with reasonable chances of success, we can talk.

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        I would accept that in 2016. This time around you dipshits knew what the result of your apathy would be and did it anyway.

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        Maybe next time the Dems should run a candidate that at least pretends to care about what the voters want. That tends to help in elections.

        All of this I agree with. Unfortunately it won’t happen until all the neolibs are run out of the party.

        But trying to pretend like you didn’t directly elect a dictator by “abstaining” is not only absurd, but ethically reprehensible. Much of life is about choosing between lesser evils and lesser pains. Letting the worst options win because a perfect one doesn’t (and cannot) exist makes you a deliberate, willing accomplice.

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          But trying to pretend like you didn’t directly elect a dictator by “abstaining” is not only absurd, but ethically reprehensible

          I’d say painting all third party or non-voters to be more absurd and ethically reprehensible, as would most people with a brain

          Or are you gonna claim the millions of votes in California that went up cast helped trump win? Elections in the US aren’t simple, people need to stop oversimplifying them

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        If you pull the lever, the trolley will run over people.

        If you don’t pull the lever, it will run them over faster because its itinerary includes running over everyone else on the planet BUT as everyone is run over, one after another, you can show them your hands. They will marvel at how clean they are and you will say it’s because you had the courage to not touch the lever. Your unwavering sense of justice will inspire them and they will die happy, knowing they once spoke to such a hero.

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            Independent. I still voted blue because they promised less genocide and I knew not doing so guaranteed as much of it as possible.

            But now that I see how clean your hands are compared to mine, I am ashamed. I mean, yes a lot more people are now dying as a result, but can you really put a price on cleanliness?

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            Well yeah, that’s exactly the idea. Choose the best of bad options, and try to improve things so that the next time there’s better options.

            Not choosing either usually leads to the worse option, which makes it harder to improve things.

            There are no easy options.

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                Unfortunately, over decades they’ve learned who are reliable voting blocks. Not participating communicates that one sees both options as functionally the same. So if anything, it encourages then to move to the right, which is a reliable voting block.

                I’m not at all gleeful about voting for them, and desperately want other options. I’m doing what I can to build parallel structures, engage in mutual aid, and in my day job I’m fighting climate change as an environmental research scientist. Unfortunately, we don’t live in the best of all possible worlds, and the tracks of the trolley don’t change overnight.

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        Ah so you think you are innocent because you didn’t vote.

        No. That makes you complacent. You let Trump win by not voting which is the same as voting for Trump.

        People like you are why Trump is president.

        What a brain dead take. Not only do you STILL have genocide, you also have a president who is going to destroy this country. All because you couldn’t lift your lazy fat ass off the couch.

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        If you didn’t vote for Harris, you accepted that allowing genocide and converting Gaza into a Trump resort was preferable to voting for slightly less genocide. The genocide has only gotten worse because Harris lost. Clownshow ethics.

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        You and those who took your route are virtue signaling morons. But at least you can look down your nose at the rest of us while our democracy crumbles and our rights are stripped away.

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        You bit hard into the propaganda campaign for this.

        You had two choices, bad or worse.

        You chose neither and allowed worse to win.

        Get down off your high horse, this does not make you morally superior, it makes you an idiot.

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            When you can’t buy anything in the stores you will definitely care.

            When you’re starving to death in your own house you won’t be thinking about genocide anymore.

            Stop burying your head in the sand.

            Basically what you just said is it’s bad that democrats do genocide but when republicans do it then it’s fine.

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          These people don’t realize (or well, maybe they do and are lying, I can’t read their minds) that asking people to not meaningfully participate in voting is like asking people to not participate in capitalism.

          The argument that there’s no ethical consumption under capitalism — something all leftists agree on and understand they still need to buy food, clothes, electronics etc. despite them being unethically sourced — is the same as the argument that there’s no ethical voting in FPTP (and capitalism). It’s literally the same argument, just centered on voting.

          So these people end up doing a kind of unironic “you say you’re a leftist yet you own an iPhone” but for voting — while probably typing all that from an iPhone.

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            To be fair, some of them are members of the Church of Accelerationism and believe that making life worse for people and offering up vulnerable populations as sacrifice will magically lead to the world getting transformed into a better place, despite no historical data backing such an idea. So, they want Nazis to win, despite claiming to be leftists who care about fellow human beings.

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              Yeah, there’s a lot of that going around. As if capitalism will collapse precisely into fully automated luxury space communism as opposed to straight-up Mad Max (i.e. the manifestation of America’s collective id).

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    “You can’t treat religious people and religious institutions and religious speech as second-class in the United States”

    If you’re teaching spiritual things then you’re not a top-class program. Stick to facts.