And for anyone asking “Why are we boycotting/blocking lemmy.ml?” Here’s a quick recap:
Lemmy.ml is an instance run by admins who are hardcore tankies and will enforce their ideology on their instance through various means from allowing (and pushing it themselves) propaganda (Such as Russia being justified in some way to invade Ukraine) and known propaganda outlets (Like RT) to removing content on their instance critical of their favored authoritarian regimes such as Russia or China and even banning users for such speech or speech critical of them if it’s off their instance (Just like the Reddit mods of ol!).
If it was just some random instance it would have been defederated from long ago like the rest of the “Tankie Triad” (Hexbear and Lemmygrad), but they’ve positioned lemmy.ml as the “flagship” instance and abused that position and influence to become large enough to keep other instances from defederating from them.
Which I believe is harmful to the Lemmy-verse’s overall growth and outside reputation. I have seen it come up before on Reddit threads (and other testimonials from people who came back and tried it again) that “They tried Lemmy but it was a bunch of tankies and went back to Reddit”
I don’t know about you, but I’d prefer Lemmy to not end up with the reputation for being "Tankie Central " or even worse “Voat 2.0”.
So if you haven’t joined the boycott yet, join today and help us foster a better healthier Lemmy-verse!
You can take a look around here on !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works for documentation of it or checkout this list of curated documentation
On bans and censorships:
https://lemmy.world/post/28480760
https://lemmy.world/post/28481615
https://lemmy.world/post/28482147
https://lemmy.world/post/28480936
https://lemmy.world/post/28482273
https://lemmy.world/post/28481272
https://lemmy.world/post/28481064
https://lemmy.world/post/27674360
https://lemmy.world/post/27674117
https://lemmy.world/post/27673934
https://lemmy.world/post/27673724
https://lemmy.world/post/27577337
https://lemmy.world/post/27378634
https://lemmy.world/post/27346630
https://lemmy.world/post/27341283
https://lemmy.world/post/27288224
https://lemmy.world/post/27156418
https://lemmy.world/post/27054157
https://lemmy.world/post/27008261
Allowing altered headlines and permitting known propaganda outlets:
https://lemmy.world/post/28275465
https://lemmy.world/post/27428838
https://lemmy.world/post/27416097
https://lemmy.world/post/27314050
https://lemmy.world/post/27288953
Spreading Russia talking points like the Ukraine invasion just being a “negotiating tactic” !https://lemmy.world/post/27012640
General negative sentiment to other instances who haven’t “seen the way” yet: https://lemmy.world/post/27426510
Open declaration of support for Russia (direct from dessalines (head admin)) https://lemmy.world/post/27352415
“concentration camps were just reeducation camps and weren’t that bad” https://lemmy.world/post/26985447
You can use any instance you want, except well…
Boo ya’ll suck
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constructive and erudite as always.
pffft
Thanks for the heads up, just added to my block list.
Lemmy.ml seems to just downvote different opinions in masse without responding with respect.
After a few attempts to engage respectfully and just getting negative interactions I just blocked them entirely.
If they can’t outright censor it (such as if it’s off-instance) then mass downvoting is all they have left to try and control the narrative.
I’m new here and did not realize that, at first, I was only seeing .ml. I was so uncomfortable with the Russian/Chinese propaganda I created an account and ended up switching to this community mainly by accident. Glad to see my discomfort was justified.
since alot of us have migrated from reddit we see the same type of content, so it was easy to recognize it here, and i usually block them.
I bet none of yee losers will have the time to actually maintains Lemmy’s code after the original creators give up.
Mbin is a thing
Stop using Lemmy > accepting russian propaganda.
It’s not a difficult choice to make, mate
Then stop using it.
Fuck Ukraine. Nazi state
I occasionally see people sying this but where does it come from? Afaik Ukraine has as much of a white supremacist problem as Russia, but it is not mainstream or the majority
Afaik Ukraine has as much of a white supremacist problem as Russia
Source? Keep in mind I am a non-white Ukrainian who has lived in both Russia and Ukraine and I speak the languages.
There is broad agreement among observers that at its formation in Spring 2014, the Azov Battalion was associated with Neo-Nazi and far-right ideas, including through the use of symbolism and the political associations and statements of its leaders and cadre.[71][281] However, there is disagreement about the subsequent course of its evolution. Several researchers have stated in the years since that the Battalion’s successors have depoliticized or deradicalized, identifying key landmarks in that process as its November 2014 incorporation into the national guard, a 2017 expulsion of some far right radicals, and Russia’s full-scale invasion in 2022
Don’t lie! You clearly have no fucking clue what you are talking about and your reference to “white supremacy” in Ukraine is more of an attempt to establish a weird aesthetic. I dislike the term, but virtue signalling is an apt description of what you are doing.
The fact that you think racism in russia Wagner (or even just Azov in Ukraine) shows that you can’t even conceptually evaluate a concept such the prevalence of racism.
I was in Kyiv during russian siege in Feb 22. Every 100 m there was a military checkpoint on the road by my place. So you are saying I was discriminated against when I passed those checkpoints and I am lying because I “Ukrainian uncle tom”?
We then left to the west of the country. We had the security services come to our rental apartment (standard procedure to check for saboteurs). So you claim that I am lying when I say my white relatives were far more freaked out by the interview than I was, because well Ukraine is extremely racists and they had harass me in such a situation?
And the fact that you think racism in russia is limited to Wagner means that you’re saying I never regularly encountered racism from both security services and regular russians (you probably don’t consider racism against Ukrainians to be racism, but that’s what I encountered in addition to be discrimination and harassment because I am not white).
Honestly, there is an abstract beauty that you are so confident in your ignorance that you had the gall to show me (a non-white Ukrainian who has lived in both russia and Ukraine for many years) Wikipedia articles for Azov and Wagner as your source.
Quite the virulent reaction there and many assumptions about stuff I never said. Take a chill pill dude
Then don’t talk out of your ass about things you have no fucking clue about.
hey be nice
It comes from one of Putin’s justifications for invading Ukraine. One of the “objectives” was to denazify Ukraine. Tankies will point to neo Nazis like the original Azov Battalion fighting for Ukraine as proof Putin was right. Has 0 basis in reality but tankies dont live in reality.
Putin is obviously lying, but Azov are neo-nazis.
don’t be offtopic
I wish feddit.org blocked lemmy.ml. I keep getting vitriol and queerphobia from their users.
> dotworld user
Pot calling the kettle shit tbh
Blahaj user
Shit calling the manure rank tbh
What’s wrong with blahaj? I thought they were one of the cool servers.
Generally, yes, but they’re also a wee bit authoritarian on some things, so people get maaaaad
They allowed a blatant troll to post often and repeatedly for a looooong time (think they finally banned their ass, tho)
Oh is this about their admin being a lil ban happy? I remember reading one of their transcripts, and it seemed justified.
So anecdotal ofc. I know not all.
Yeah these idiots banned u/Dead_or_alive for litteral genocide apologia (saying shit like “palestinians deserve it”.
Then he got unbanned a few hours later.
I tried to tolerate .ml because they’ve got some good linux and foss focused communities. Ultimately I decided it wasn’t worth it.
With genocide apologist defederated, another comnunity will surely take its place. A community that’s purpose is not to poison your mind.
“Known propaganda outlets (like RT)”
Sorry but… What’s RT mean in this context? Rooster Teeth? I’ve got no clue.
Just absolutely love your guess though
Lol my B. Couldn’t think of anything RT as an abbreviation but that
You don’t need to defend yourself. Would that the world were so kind
Oh, uhm. Sorry? I think? I’m not sure what I’m supposed to say this time haha. Thanks? Maybe…? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I’m not sure what I meant!
Me either 😅
It’s those damn Reds, again.
I do know RvB, sorry! Just hadn’t looked at my phone till now!
I can’t tell if “reds” means communists or if this post was written by Church.
Obvious red post trying to false flag as blue.
Oh that crazy Sarge again!
RT stands for Russia Today.
Thank you for answering
Like it or not, we can shine a light and hope they see.
I am as libertarian (as opposed to authoritarian) as they come, and I still hope I (and others who share my sentiment) will be able to convince them the merits of a world with human rights, diplomacy, and freedom — that is not needlessly violent and forceful.
We can move past barbarism, but to do so we must define what comes next to those who have shut their hearts to the truth — especially to those who have spent too much time reliving the horrific violence of the 20th century.
I don’t need to boycott them, I don’t feel the need to block them. Everybody is within their rights to do so though, but I will keep slowly trying to win them over to the idea of a more kind and free world.
Creating Lemmy and the fediverse is of incredible value to humanity. They provided a timely medicine to the internet — a decentralized platform that is not controlled by an American corporation and ruled by algorithms. I don’t feel like it’s a lost cause to do my best.
This just made me realise my feed is just that bit cleaner and there’s so much less news, it’s actually quite calming.
yes same, its just them whining, much like con posts do the same.
I’m lucky to not have been too exposed to most of their tankie apologetics for authoritarians, but I did notice a pretty staggering number of them were under the impression that Trump and Harris were literally identical.
And no, I don’t mean in the “the democrats are center right and often vote similarly to republicans on many issues” ‘identical’ view, I mean “They both do an equally bad amount of things, just in different areas, and neither is worse than the other” 💀
The amount of “both sides” is gross tbh.
Only like 3.5% of the world’s population lives in the US. So if you happen to live in a country that has been negatively affected by US foreign policy in the last 50 years and don’t much care what happens to people inside the US right now, or what labels and pins they put on their jackets, yeah there is little difference between red and blue. Like if you ignore what ideological they profess to and simply look at their actions on other countries.
Empathy can be “disabled” though certain ideology or religion. Saying such radical things like “no difference” is an attempt help people snap out of this “sociopathic trance”. Or at worst an attempt to mock or scold you for defending an imperialist regime that has caused countless deaths and immense suffering over the last 7 decades.
Obviously this is futile. And lemmy is much more pleasurable when blocking such people.
I joined Lemmy in November. By New Years I had independently figured out what was wrong with .ml and its users.
The less of that garbage, the better.
What app so you use to browse lemmy and how do I block .ml?
To paraphrase an old saying… Socialists will freely make us the rope to hang them with.
Its not them being socialists thats the issue, its them supporting authoritarianism.
Yupp. Be socialist or even fricking MAGA all you want, as long as we can discuss in good faith and stick to the facts.
The moment you say vaccines causes autism or that China is a democratic heaven, you can kindly kiss my posterior.
