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      17 days ago

      I never liked him. Not for any particular reason really. It’s just the vibe I’m getting from him. He doesn’t seem authentic.

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        I still reckon his only really good non-Tenacious D work was Nacho Libre. Everything else has been a load of saccharine nonsense. Even Nacho is kinda saccharine, but it at least has a whacky style to it. “Chancho, when you are a man, sometimes you wear stretchy pants in your room. Just for fun.”

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          His Tenacious D bandmate, Kyle Gass, made a joke about assassinating Donald Trump. Black put out a statement criticizing and distancing himself from Gass while also placing the band on hiatus, cancelling a then-ongoing world tour. People feel he threw a longtime friend under the bus in order to protect his public image.

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            I get why someone would lose respect for him over that, but he’s a celeb who’s cultivated a wholesome kid-oriented image of inclusivity rather than culture warrior. He’s in the “you catch more flies with honey than vinegar” camp which is probably where folks like Fred Roger’s would be were he here today.

            So I guess I didn’t expect much more from him, but I’m also not a huge fan or anything, just enjoy his work, so I’m not in a position to really be disappointed in him.

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              he’s a celeb who’s cultivated a wholesome kid-oriented image

              Damn dude just say you don’t know anything about Tenacious D. Lol.

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            Alternate theory: Jack understands that bad press impacts the movies he works on and that hundreds to thousands of people depend on those movies doing well. It sucks he did this but as an adult whose actions could have a negative impact on my co-workers incomes I get it

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              16 days ago

              Maybe, but I don’t agree fully. He made a huge deal about it while singing his distasteful songs. the joke was par for the audience course.

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        Mostly how he threw Kyle Gass under the bus over his Trump joke, cancelling the entire tour as well. Just so he can keep his trashy movie career going? Also he is in way too much stuff. Jack Black just doesn’t belong in Star Wars or Lord of the Rings … even when it’s just fan fiction.

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          Just read up on the trump comment. I understand Jack has this family friendly persona that he likes to keep. I don’t agree with cancelling the tour and putting creative plans on hold. But I can understand why he’d be instantly on damage control.

          I share the same sentiment as Kyle. I really was saddened that the guy missed.

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            I really don’t get the family persona bit here. Yes, it’s “a thing”, but this happened at a Tenacious D concert. His definitively not child friendly persona singing songs like “Fuck her gently”.

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              Very true! But bigger picture, this gets reported on and causes harm to his “family friendly” schtick. I don’t agree with it, but I understand it.

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            Hard to reconcile “family friendly” when you’ve got a song called “Fuck Her Gently” but ok

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              Consider his work, other than Tenacious D. His roles in movies, random guest star appearances at concerts and such. He’s crafted this lovable teddy bear image. That’s what I’m referring to. Yes, he and Kyle have cultivated a fan base for Tenacious D that is anything but wholesome. But there is more to his image than just that. Most people that only know of him from his performances in movies see him as a family friendly silly guy. That has become his bread and butter.

              Again, I don’t agree with his response to Kyle’s birthday wish, but I can understand why he would be on the defensive for it.

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    Snoop Dogg. Black man playing songs at an orange man’s klan rally, at this point Martha Stewart is more gangster than he is.

    By the same token, my respect for Kendrick went up 1000% after his halftime show.

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      Yup, coward has been in hiding since the first negative articles came out. Just another sad human showing his greed over what is right.

      Hmm maybe there should be a new strain out there sold as Snoop Sellout Kush.

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        I’m ok with people shutting the fuck up and disappearing when they get called out for being arseholes. In fact, I wish more people were capable of that.

        I must have missed the latest Snoop Drama, but don’t bother to update me - I don’t care about Snoop. He always struck me as a dude that just constantly baked and will say yes to pretty much anything without too much scrutiny, so he can turn up pretty much ANYWHERE. That’s bound to backfire eventually.

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        If I ran a grow op I’d name that strain and funnel the proceeds to help trans kids with counseling and support, just to point the middle finger directly at their latest boogeyman.

        Shame since he’s been an icon for so long and helped a lot of kids with the football program, but I guess above a certain level of wealth the only religion you follow is money and everything else including morality is just an opportunity for profit.

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    Roger Taylor and Brian May from Queen. Not due to them being overt assholes, but about how the treated the cinematic legacy of Freddy Mercury.

    The blocked a movie idea with Sasha Baron Cohen playing Freddie in his flamboyant, over the top lifestyle as they wanted it to be ‘more about the band’ and they wanted Freddies death to be the middle part of the story, where the last half was them two (as Roger Deacon had walked away from them) protecting Freddies legacy.

    I mean, the reason people loved Freddie was over his larger than life persona, and I’m convinced Cohen could’ve struck the note between the over-the-top, the fabulous and the pesonal Freddie.

    Instead we got BoRep, which was an awful movie with a polished up storyline and danger free scenes. Also it was horribly edited.

    I must say, they haven’t done horrible stuff, they are decent individuals. But they got their succes out of working with Freddie yet they fail to see why everybody was so enchanted by Freddie and not so much by themselves.

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      Roger Taylor and Brian May. John Deacon was the bass player and he retired when Freddie died.

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        Shit mixed those up, I wrote Deacons’ name further down in the comment too…

        fixed

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        Well I used to like them, but I dont anymore. So that fits the thread imho.

        It doesn’t say why you don’t like them anymore or that they must have done something horrid…

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          Members of one of the most famous bands in the world, yeah they fit the thread, and you took the extra time to detail why. I dislike them for the same reason, and it was a well written post 👍

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      Throughout that entire article, only the poker stuff had anything to actually fault Maguire with, and it appears to depend entirely on what Molly Bloom said.

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    I used to like Katy Perry’s music in high-school. Now shes super cringe hanging out with basically our version of Lex Luthor so I dont listen to her music anymore.

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        Went to space with Jeff Bezos. It was a tone deaf “omg were women going into space” when everyone cringed and saw it as “look what I can do when I befriend a billionaire”.

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          Don’t leave out how weird she started acting. Like it was 10 minutes but she acted like she was on shrooms and then her music got fucking weird as did her dancing and videos.

          It’s like she forgot how to be an artist and started acting like an amateur romping around in some basement.

          Maybe she’s dug into Elon’s stash.

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    Bill Cosby. I was raised on Bill Cosby albums and TV shows. I can’t listen to him any more.

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      He’s one of the few people who’s work I can separate from the monster, but only because it was my first comedy album as a kid

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      My family had “The Best of Bill Cosby” album when I was a kid and we listened to it a lot. Some of the funniest bits on that album and I always had warm memories sitting and listening to them.

      Then it comes out that he’s a complete monster. All those family memories tied to that now, it really sucks.

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    David Draiman. Sadly I can’t listen to the guy sing anymore without my brain thinking of the horrors he is actively supporting.

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      Oh god damn it, what did he do? I’m assuming something to do with Palestine. I had just gotten back into Disturbed after just kind of forgetting they existed for ~10 years…

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    16 days ago

    why do you people love celebrities so much?

    if someone handles a ball nicely, writes a book, sings a song or plays guitar, like them for that and stop assuming they must also be wise in family advice or politically savvy

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      You have to be incredibly good at something for me to ignore you being an asshole. There are also certain things that are unforgivable even if the art is good.

      It’s like Cosby was funny, but he drugged and raped people, so it’s hard to laugh at him now.

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        Absolutely, but I think you misunderstood me…

        Let’s pretend for a moment Cosby is not a rapist; why do anyone infer that, because his comedy was good, he would be a good role model or have savvy life advice to give or know about politics, etc?

        I completely agree with you that it’s is almost impossible to enjoy whatever celebrities do (art, sports, etc) if they are horrible people. however, that line is subjective. Many would still like Cosby if we had found out he does not donate to charity or even if he is an absent dad or if he were a terrible driver… obviously the rapist thing goes too far

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          The audience can make up their mind on how to enjoy entertainment without your approval of their thoughts and experiences . That’s how free will works.

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            I’m not granting or denying approval to anyone… I simply wonder why people do certain stuff

            Go back to reddit to pick fights with strangers there!

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              You gave way too hard of an opinion to call that leading question ‘curiosity’.

              Go back to truth social where you can live in your little echo chamber and maybe stop baiting. You’re too fragile to be playing that game.

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          I’m gonna be the first akshually here and point out that Cosby is a bad example because he DID present himself as a guiding voice and role model and came to fame by creating a cartoon showing inner city kids how to be good to each other and handle life issues.

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            and then theres people say the only way he could actually do that was getting inspiration from his rapes and SA.

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          It really comes down to the calculus of how much I like them vs what did they actually do (with some things being truly unforgivable).

          For example, Sylvester Stallone recently came out in big support of Trump. To me, that makes him a huge ass. That said, I’ll still watch Rocky 4 if it comes on (all the while, in the back of my head thinking “wow, really, Trump… that’s your guy?”). So my perception of him and his movies change, but also it’s his right to be an idiot.

          In the same vein, Rob Schneider has recently made his whole personality a bitter old conservative "comic’. He really brings little of value to the table, so he can easily be dismissed. His value/drama ratio isn’t worth giving him the time of day – we’ll outside of this example.

          I can’t totally divorce the person from their content, but I try when their stuff is great and what they did isn’t too repulsive.

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            After hearing from Robs daughter how she was treated and what he was / is like as a person, I can’t like anything he did, and it all comes across narcissistic and creepy from that viewpoint. It’s like a game of power but with a curse. (whatever that game is really called,)

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            seinfeld is like rob,“why arnt you laughing at my jokes, are you all woke” no because you support israel government, and your wife is currently funding state side groups.

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        Why the rock?

        I believe he refused to endorse Kamala and then like a true coward said he was keeping his political views private, its was pretty sad. The pathetic coward was terrified of a maga boycott of his garbage movies.

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        Look up his interview he did on Fox News last year. He basically blamed black people for there current situation in themselves and also said that Biden was a terrible president and he didn’t outright endorse Trump but he danced around it.

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          go figures since hes still with ASSOCIATED with the WWE fanbase, and in general vince who is a trump donor.

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          Awww maaaaaannnn… Tsk really? That sucks.

          Edit, from Wikipedia:

          As part of WWE’s non-partisan “Smackdown Your Vote” campaign aiming to encourage young people to vote,[405] Johnson had a speaking role at the 2000 Republican National Convention[406] and attended the 2000 Democratic National Convention less than two weeks later.[407]

          Johnson voted for Barack Obama in 2008 and 2012,[276] but did not vote in 2016,[408] and was an independent voter as of 2017.[409] He endorsed Joe Biden in 2020,[410] but told Fox News in an April 2024 interview that he regretted the decision due to it causing “division” and refused to endorse anyone in 2024.[411]

          Imo not good, but definitely nuanced and probably not great. I didn’t see the interview though so I don’t know.

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            He’s trying to stay independent because he fantasizes about running for president one day. He even did a TV show where the framing device was him being interviewed as a presidential candidate, so they could show his life in flashbacks. It was an obvious ploy to position him as a legitimate political candidate in viewers’ minds.

            Every rich and/or famous person now thinks they should be president.

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        hes also a very difficult actor to work with in the industry, hes known as the “ellen degeneres” of male actors. must have as much if not more attention as the lead in a movie, or as much action or more action than other people. also hes pretty much attention seeker, and people compared him to dave bautista, dave is actor, and he only wanted the glory of a movie star.

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        Also of his volunteering with Oprah in Hawaii with the huge fire. Weird seeing humans that have exorbitant amount of money that can actually help, and they’re just passing out water bottles to the people that lost their homes saying that “they wish they could do more to help/hope things work out for them.” It was a publicity stunt at the expense of people who lost everything.