I’m shocked that I haven’t seen one protest yet. Is the media suppressing them? If there aren’t any, why?

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      This is from someone that lived through WWII in Germany.

      "Each act, each occasion, is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join with you in resisting somehow. You don’t want to act, or even talk alone; you don’t want to “go out of your way to make trouble.” Why not?—Well, you are not in the habit of doing it. And it is not just fear, fear of standing alone, that restrains you; it is also genuine uncertainty.

      Uncertainty is a very important factor, and, instead of decreasing as time goes on, it grows. Outside, in the streets, in the general community, “everyone” is happy. One hears no protest, and certainly sees none. You speak privately to your colleagues, some of whom certainly feel as you do; but what do they say? They say, “It’s not so bad” or “You’re seeing things” or “You’re an alarmist.”

      And you are an alarmist. You are saying that this must lead to this, and you can’t prove it. These are the beginnings, yes; but how do you know for sure when you don’t know the end, and how do you know, or even surmise, the end? On the one hand, your enemies, the law, the regime, the Party, intimidate you. On the other, your colleagues pooh-pooh you as pessimistic or even neurotic. You are left with your close friends, who are, naturally, people who have always thought as you have.

      But your friends are fewer now. Some have drifted off somewhere or submerged themselves in their work. You no longer see as many as you did at meetings or gatherings. Now, in small gatherings of your oldest friends, you feel that you are talking to yourselves, that you are isolated from the reality of things. This weakens your confidence still further and serves as a further deterrent to—to what? It is clearer all the time that, if you are going to do anything, you must make an occasion to do it, and then are obviously a troublemaker. So you wait, and you wait.

      But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds of thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions, would have been sufficiently shocked—if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ’43 had come immediately after the “German Firm” stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ’33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all of the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D.

      And one day, too late, your principles, if you were ever sensible of them, all rush in upon you. The burden of self-deception has grown too heavy, and some minor incident, in my case my little boy, hardly more than a baby, saying “Jewish swine,” collapses it all at once, and you see that everything has changed and changed completely under your nose. The world you live in—your nation, your people—is not the world you were born in at all. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves; when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. Now you live in a system which rules without responsibility even to God. The system itself could not have intended this in the beginning, but in order to sustain itself it was compelled to go all the way.

      Suddenly it all comes down, all at once. You see what you are, what you have done, or, more accurately, what you haven’t done (for that was all that was required of most of us: that we do nothing). You remember those early morning meetings of your department in the university when, if one had stood, others would have stood, perhaps, but no one stood. A small matter, a matter of hiring this man or that, and you hired this one rather than that. You remember everything now, and your heart breaks. Too late. You are compromised beyond repair."

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    There are. Heaps of them.

    The US is just a big place and very spread out. And the ruling government and its media conglomerates are trying to keep them out of the media.

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      There absolutely are not. There are anemic little marches scattered here and there.

      Americans were protesting George Bush in 2004 more forcefully and in vastly larger numbers than they are protesting now.

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        Apparently there were about 375,000 people protesting the Iraq War in New York in 2003 compared to about a million people marching for women’s safety in 2004 in DC

        In the years since there have been about 5 protests the same or much larger than that. In 2017 2.3 Million people protested the Trump inauguration, and protestors also showed up for Trump’s 2025 inauguration which was held indoors for reasons including harsh snow. The exact number estimates for the 2025 inauguration protest and the 50501 protests are unknown at the moment, but it is occurring in all 50 states which is comparable to the George Floyd protests.

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    I don’t have an answer but I have wondered the same. Serbia, Georgia and Türkiye have currently some very large pro-democracy demonstrations, but the USA hasn’t. What there is seems to be pretty small scale.

    Maybe pro-democrat Americans don’t feel like their actions matter? Perhaps the opposition just isn’t that popular? Maybe the USA just didn’t have all that strong traditions of civil action to to begin with. At least when compared to countries lile Georgia or Serbia.

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    Can’t mass protest if you don’t have a way to get people in one location. United States car infra prevents that.

    Source: seen mass protests, seen “US protests”. Night and day difference

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    Maybe you just aren’t where it’s happening?

    https://apnews.com/article/50501-protests-project-2025-trump-state-capitols-ddd341171a54ba9b498cbfe7530e18ab

    “Protesters in Philadelphia and at state capitols in California, Minnesota, Michigan, Texas, Wisconsin, Indiana and beyond waved signs denouncing President Donald Trump; billionaire Elon Musk, the leader of Trump’s new Department of Government Efficiency; and Project 2025, a hard-right playbook for American government and society.”

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      Sorry but there are like 100 people at each protest. There should be a million marching through Washington… What are we talking about here

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        Getting a million people to Washington D.C. is a tall order when places like CA, OR, WA are 3,000 miles away, plus people have to, you know, work and stuff.

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          Yes I hear this all the time. So what you are saying is that 1)people in Europe don’t have jobs and 2)the population density in us is low. Regarding 2) yes it is lower in the US however Washington dc and surrounding area (maybe 2h drive by car or so) have several million inhabitants. Let’s assume 5, if only 1% of them are going we would be talking about at least 50.000 people joining a protest. I don’t have seen any reports about that, are those just not reported?

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      I guess I’m just shocked that they only waved signs. In France, the guillotine would have been out. Here in Canada we entirely shut down our capital for months, and both for way less. When will the real protests start?

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        We don’t have the level of social safety nets that France does to allow people the freedom to pretest without starving or becoming homeless. It is by design. They keep everyone just on the verge of poverty so nobody can afford to be disruptive.

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        In the US, protests are largely performative. People want to make a show of it do they can say “Look, I did something!” even if they’re doing nothing. They’ll break their own arms patting themselves on the back.

        I live in Portland which is protest central. We had 100 days of Black Lives Matter protests which meant and did nothing as the city largely agreed with the sentiment.

        You want a protest that matters? You take it where the action is happening. In the case of Trump, you can set EVERY Tesla dealer on fire, it means nothing.

        Take that shit to D.C. and shut that city down for 100 days? Assuming the Feds don’t kill everyone, that’s a protest that would matter.

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          Take that shit to D.C. and shut that city down for 100 days? Assuming the Feds don’t kill everyone, that’s a protest that would matter.

          for an example of this, see the March on Washington during the civil rights movement of the 1960s

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        Americans are notoriously terrible at protesting. I was in high school in the '00s and our American history textbook had a sidebar about the 1999 Seattle WTO protests. The bit that stuck with me: a French dignitary interviewed on the scene was unconcerned about the protesters. He pointed to an untouched BMW (or similar luxury car, I forget the exact make). “In Paris,” he said, “That car would be burning.”

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        I’m not a historian, but my guess is that we have lived too many generations without major political incident; the kind you’re supposed to make heads roll over.

        We’ve been indoctrinated since birth to blindly love our country, to mind what we say; we have seen other countries and their political unrest, and we ignorantly convinced ourselves that it will never be like that here.

        And despite the cop out response of “we vOtEd fOr it”, otherwise good, hardworking Americans were lied to by their friends, family, church, and beloved government for so long that they can’t know any better.

        Make no mistake, we fucked up and let our hubris get the better of us. I hope we can see the error of our ways and fight back before it really is too late.

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          I’m not a historian, but my guess is that we have lived too many generations without major political incident; the kind you’re supposed to make heads roll over.

          Really though? Just off the top of my head:

          Eisenhower to Nixon

          • Vietnam

          JFK

          • Rigged elections in Illinois with aid of the mafia.
          • Bay of Pigs

          Nixon

          • Watergate
          • Being Richard Nixon

          Reagan

          • Illegal invasion of Grenada
          • Iran-Contra

          Clinton

          • Executing a developmentally-challenged man as a campaign stunt.
          • Lewinsky Affair
          • Many rape allegations over decades
          • Whitewater

          Bush II

          • Illegal invasion of Iraq

          Obama

          • Bugging of Merkel’s phone

          Trump

          • Everything

          Biden

          • Medical incapacity
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              There’s that old thought experiment on who someone would take out of time travel existed. I used to think that Hitler would be a good target. However, seeing how many of the current issues started because of something Reagan gutted, reduced, or schemed to disrupt or remove makes him my new target. So much of our current shituation can be directly tied back to Reagan.

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            Many of your examples are just the US fucking up the lives of citizens in other countries. The average American at home does not give a fuck about the people being murdered by his government, he isn’t going to skip a day of work to protest against that. I think maybe you are forgetting how much Americans loved the idea of invading Iraq, for instance. It took a long time for support to decrease, and even then it was only to like 50/50 levels. Americans weren’t the ones protesting against that war, it was the rest of the world who saw it for what it was. When it comes to foreign affairs the American citizen has consistently been blinded by a mixture of patriotism, ignorance and the myth of American exceptionalism.

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        You gotta remember. The majority of voters wanted this. Trump won the popular vote. He still has almost a 50% approval. Half of Americans are good with what’s happening. Let that sink in.

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          This is the part that made me give up. No amount of anything will make up for the fact that roughly 53% of voters wanted this, which is probably like 40% of the country. A country which has like 3.5 billionish people, and 40% want racism. They want to support the wealth gap because they’re too dumb to understand they’ll never be on the other side of the gap, and this is just renforcing it. They’re more than happy to hurt themselves if it means the OTHER people get dragged down with them. Which just makes them a tool for the rich to use the poor to destroy the poor.

          We’re alienating our allys, we’re destroying our country. We’re destroying the global economy, and this is just the start. The next 4 years this asshole gets to sit on his throne, and KNOW he’ll face no consequences. He’ll face no reprecussions for his actions for him and his little asshole buddies.

          I’m hurt. I’m tired. I’m in pain. I have no idea if I even HAVE medicaide anymore. They say it’s not cut off, but it was supposed to get cut off Feb 28th because of lack of state funding. I think the state itself doesn’t know. But worst of all, I have no hope. I have no logical plan for what comes next to work towards making a better tomorrow. Yesterday sucked. Today sucks. Tomorrow will suck by all indications. The GOP at this point are actively trying to destroy this country. I’m not proud to be american. I’m ashamed. I’m tired of appologizing to others for existing. And right now, if Canada decided to just atomic bomb us, I’d understand. Go ahead Canada. Take us out. We deserve it.

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            I don’t disagree with what you said but there’s not 3.5 billion people in the US. There’s like 340 million.

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          Reminder that voter turnout was still only 63.7%. Half of voters didn’t vote for Trump, half of that 63.7% did. Still way too fucking many, but it’s not half of the US.

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        Are we really comparing the French Revolution and the annoying-ass, snowflake trucker protest?

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        if you haven’t seeb the news, some protestors and professors have been taken captive by ICE in the US and that’s had a chilling effect. however, that also builds some tension - as soon as some major property destruction breaks out and it becomes obvious that ICE can’t disappear them all, people will be bringing police precincts and declaring autonomous zones again like they did in the BLM protests (did your news sources report those?)

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    Estimates show 65-75% of households live paycheck to paycheck. We financially can’t miss a day of work, let alone long stretches. Or we are allowed so little time off that it has to be saved for sick/emergency days (if you get any at all!).

    That’s setting aside things like long hours, multiple jobs, unaffordable daycare, lack of medical care on top of hard hitting inflation without any wage changes.

    It’s by design. It’s like intentionally under feeding slaves so they don’t have the energy to run away.

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      Hang on, that doesn’t sound like the American dream I’ve been told about !

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        The American dream was the freedom to pursue your goals, not those rewards being handed to you. Common misconception. You had a bunch of kids before financially ready or didn’t go to the right school, picked up a felony young, whatver you did, that was on you, by the old timers logic. Literal royalty just wasn’t preventing you anymore.

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          Oh I thought the American dream was having crony capitalism destroy your small business and send you to work at the Walmart that replaced you. Only to have to rely on government benefits because its the only job in 50 miles and it pays $7.50 an hour.

          Thats the rural american dream baby. Sprinkle some opioids on it. It’s glorious.

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            It’s fucking amazing how people that populate these sites are incapable of having a simple, historical fact explained to them without whining about how bad they have it, from their own choices.

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              I just described rural America. From sea to shining sea. Did you actually have a historical fact? It sounded like you were just were just speculating without conculsion and casting judgement like that was the only intent you had.

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                  Oh so you don’t care about actual americans. Thats all i needed to know. I’m not whining, im doing fine myself. Clearly i didn’t die from Oxy overdose and im happily retired forcused on gardening. I just care about the people who’s lives were ruined, i forgot empathy offends you fucking snowflakes so next time i’ll tone it down. Good luck feeding your welfare dependant family memebers this year!

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    Whenever I attend a protest, there is 0 media stations in attendance or covering it.

    By design. They’re under control.

    Honestly, I think everyone’s waiting for the masses to be just pissed off enough to kick it up a notch.

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    I live in the SF Bay Area. There’s a website that was set up to track protests (https://www.actiontogetherbayarea.org/calendar). There are more than a dozen today and more than two dozen tomorrow. I think generally the larger protests are at state capitols and Washington DC, which are simply too far for many people to go to. Sacramento is our state capitol and that’s about a 1.5 hour drive from here. CA is a big state, Sacramento would probably be an 8-hour drive from Los Angeles.

    Also, as others have mentioned, the protests don’t get a lot of media coverage.

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    Getting sick of Europeans falling for the blatant suppression and propaganda that our corporate-elite overlords are spoon-feeding them and using that to act superior.

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      Europeans are so smug about this shit. It’s not a personal virtue that all of you can just hop on a train or a bike or whatever and be at your nation’s capital in an hour or two for between zero and fifty euros. Some of us are literally thousands of miles from DC. We are still protesting where we are, but it’s purely symbolic and also no one cares.

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        Why shouldn’t they be? Americans have long had a superiority complex, always confidently mocking the problems of others around the world as if they were immune to them. It may feel bad for you now but the schadenfreude the rest of the world feels is completely justified. Frankly, the way some of you are suddenly crying about the rest of the world being mean to you is only further contributing to this image of Americans thinking they are above everyone else.

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          Americans’ superiority complex have always been a goddamn embarrassment. You guys also don’t understand American political subdynamics at all. The obnoxious American exceptionalists you are talking about are the ones who supported (and still support) Trump. Every negative stereotype associated with Americans is embodied by Trump supporters, not Trump opposers.

          I don’t really care if the world is mean to us. I support every country boycotting the US. I do not consider myself a patriot and never have. I am a cosmopolitan and don’t think being born on a certain patch of dirt makes anyone special. I just wish people could understand that a lot of their “gotchas” about Americans (“you guys think your country is better than everyone else,” “you guys always talk about 2A”, etc) aren’t really gotchas because the people the shoe fits the snuggest are the ones who LIKE Trump. People who think the US is God’s gift to the world and entitled to stomp all over everyone else voted for Trump because that’s what he believes! They aren’t out here protesting and they’re not going to because they think there’s nothing to protest!

          My problem isn’t that rhetoric targeting anti-Trump Americans is mean but that it’s counterproductive. It’s preaching to the choir. A lot of us who voted against him and continue to oppose him are people who think and act more or less just like you but who just happened to be born on this patch of dirt instead of yours. And with a government that doesn’t listen to us at all, we have about as much power over the situation as you do. We should be allies in this fight.

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            My problem isn’t that rhetoric targeting anti-Trump Americans is mean but that it’s counterproductive.

            Typing this after you’ve just whined about “Europeans” is peak irony. You guys are so fucking clueless.

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      That being said, if you have a hard time getting the word out on your protests, then the suppression is working.

      Publicizing your actions is part of the protest.

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        You’re making the assumption that these protests don’t have designated people to cover and publicize their actions. We already know Meta and Twitter have been literally suppressing and shadow banning leftist associated tags and keywords on their platforms.

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          People need to be sharing info here and through other channels. Pictures, videos, links to organised groups.

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            There have been. But, if I come across some I’ll try to remember to send you a link.

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      Especially since far-right groups have been falling for Musk’s same bullshit in Europe.

      There’s been reports that Germany’s AFD party fell out of favor after their news got to see how Trump played out. I seriously hope that ends up being true in their next election.

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    50501 is very active, we’re hitting the streets all the time. I’ve been at a demonstration almost every week for the past month and a half. Please, join us!

    Edit: From one of my other comments in case you’re uneasy about getting involved:

    I don’t even like talking to people in the first place.

    SAME SAME SAME. When I started confronting these [Trump supporters] people in my life my anxiety would flare up to the point my voice would shake lol. And I never in my life thought I’d be out marching in the streets.

    It gets easier, but it takes practice (Prozac helps too). Now the anxiety has become anger. But not anger at them, rather anger at the system. Anger at what we let this country become. Anger at how lazy and complacent I’ve become.

    Do your best, stay safe, and most important of all don’t get scared. Get angry.

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    Tens of millions of Americans can’t afford a sudden $400.00 expense without going further into debt.

    That means they can’t afford to miss a day of work.

    And that’s by design.

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      Which just means mass protests aren’t big enough. It’ll take a while, but eventually they’ll realize that with enough mass mobilization missing work and going into debt become irrelevant.