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Another potential Tesla alternative to add to the list: https://www.telotrucks.com/
Im personally looking forward to Edison EV conversions.
The ability to take a vehicle I already have and turn it into an EV or hybrid would be amazing.
I know they’re a while from full production, but I see that as a win. So many of these EVs are having quality issues because they’re being shit out onto the market as fast as humanly possible. I’d rather a company actually take the time to do R&D, test things thoroughly, and then release a product.
Elon: “and I took that personally…”
Good, fuck those poorly made vehicles.
Burn a Tesla, make the world a better place.
Burning makes the world a more dangerous and polluted place.
There are much more eco friendly ways to vandalise and immobilise.
What is an alternative to burning for long-term immobilization?
Asking for a friend.
Sometimes you gotta get creative.
For cypertruck, i heard Soap maybe?
That’s just gonna rust it
You need a wooden fence to totally immobilize a cyber truck
In Europe Tesla isn’t even #1 on EV anymore, they have been surpassed by VAG aka Volkswagen Group.
Depending on how you compare, they are probably a little bit more expensive, but also higher quality.hur, hur, you said VAG
Not that kind, we know because Elon hasn’t propositioned it
Glad I’m not the only full grown child reading the thread
after what he has done to californias fast rail system, with the hyperloop scam, he deserves much more.
This belongs in uplifting news
0% would be uplifting. This is still way too many people supporting a piece of shit.
Just imagine if there wasn’t a crazy tariff on Chinese cars the figure would be even lower. BYD are making some great cars
BYDs are everywhere now in Australia. Not sure what alternative brands are available in the US, is it just Rivian?
Are you asking if Rivian is the only company besides Tesla selling electric cars in the US?
No, nearly all major manufacturers sell EVs. Something like 25 brands.
Edit: although a few of those may still only be selling plug-in hybrids. I know Alfa Romeo is one, for example.
I believe there was a 100% tariff in place pre-Trump meltdown on Chinese EVs in the U.S, making them less viable in that market. The EU also tariffs them heavily, which is quite a pity.
The EU also tariffs them heavily
Yes, to tip the scales back towards fair competition pricing by offsetting the subsidies the Chinese brands are getting from their government. It doesn’t fully offset it though, they’re still quite a lot cheaper than e.g. VW BEVs
rivian isnt even that widespread , and they are still testing some models. i can see them going for IONIQ 5, maybe mercedes, or bmw.
And other Chinese brands!. The MG4 is super popular in Australia too. Can get it for about $38k AUD ($25k USD).
Even if Tesla wasn’t tarnished by association with Musk, they have absolutely nothing at the budget end of the market. ie for buyers that traditionally bought corollas, little Mazdas and Hyundai’s.
And BYD has the whole range, if I want a luxury sedan the BYD Seal goes toe to toe with the model 3.
I think China is going to eat everyone’s lunch here in the same way Japan did in the 70s/80s, and Korea went in even cheaper in the 90s and 00s (how many Hyundai Excels/Accents were there in Australia in late 90s early 00s).
On the more affordable end around here I see a lot of electric cars from Ford, Chevrolet, Kia, and Hyundai around here, and to a lesser extent Volkswagen. On the high end it’s mostly Mercedes-Benz and BMW, sometimes Porsche. Once in a while I’ll see Rivian but they don’t have a dealership in our state. Even more rarely I’ll see Polestar, which does have a dealership in a city at the other end of the state, and at least one person here has a Lucid Air.
Edit: also on the high end, there’s at least one Hummer EV driving around here.
Depends on where you are in California I guess. I see more Rivians here than Cybertrucks.
Rivian & the 2 or 3 models the big manufacturers have. I see way more hybrids than full electrics in my area.
Ford has at least one now, I think VW does as well
Ford has 3, the F-150 Lightning and the unfortunately named Mustang Mach-E, and the E-Transit van I think is primarily for commercial customers.
These guys are FAKE NEWS and Need to be DEPORTED for Hurting ELON MUSKS FEELINGS!
I have duly upvoted your obvious sarcasm.
Same
It’s crazy that one manufacturer being below 50% market share is news.
ear 100% EV market share just a few years back.
in cali, ev is big here.
They had near 100% EV market share just a few years back.
Losing half the market in 3-4 years is a huge change for any company, even if some of it was inevitable as rivals caught up and suprassed their offerings.
At some point prices will get so low that it’ll make sense to buy a Tesla and rework the body so no one knows it’s a Tesla.
They’re already selling at virtually no markup. They’re also old, very mature production lines. There’s not much more price drop to be had, unless Tesla starts selling them at a loss.
Doing that will probably make it near impossible to get serviced, though.
If you can buy a Tesla cheap enough the usable parts, such as batteries and motors, can be moved to a different frame or vehicle. Even an ICE vehicle that you’d like to electrify. It’s all just parts.
I like the way you think. When Tesla tanks and gets sold off for pennies, could you please start a Tesla Conversion business? I’d like to have a useful EV pickup that can carry a slide-in truck camper. I don’t need any of that self-driving shit or connections to the Cloud or giant touch screens. Just pedals, gauges, levers, buttons, and a steering wheel.
There are some companies working on electric crate engines for conversion, I forget the names but they should be ready sometime soon
That’s pretty wild and really cool to ponder. Battery placement and balancing its weight safely seems like a steep hurdle for bolt-on EV conversions.
Seems like there’s potential space in a lot of the undercarriage, or as flat packs at the base of the engine and trunk compartments.
🖕Tesla
The Bay Area is probably the only thing keeping that company alive. Every stoplight you pull up to there has at least a couple Teslas
I see a cyber truck almost every day. It makes no sense. They aren’t even like the same one.
When they’re up for renewal, they won’t be replaced with Teslas.
Well, less than 50% will, maybe. Still a lot of people buying shitty cars apparently.
Even in iowa you see them all over. There are so many drivers any car make other than the most exclusive will be seen soon if you fixate on it (read look).
Stastics show tesla is a tiny brand by market share. However they are wer the only ev brand until reciently so people focus on them.
And that’s really the only reason I have one - it was the only long range electric car available when I bought it. Now I would choose any of the many other options first.
I know a lot of people who bought teslas before musk became a full blown oligarch and feel uncomfortable about it
I’d sell that shit at a loss.
I did
To whom though
i also wonder what people in cali are thinking when they bought the cybertruck, because i seen quite a few to them. i noticed they try to obscure the windos,s o people dont know that are driving it.
Any car is sold at a loss. As someone who recently paid one of these off, I can’t stomach a new car payment in the face of our melting economy because six years ago I didn’t foresee the head of a car company turning out to be a freaking nazi.
Considering my Tesla replaced a VW TDI, I’m feeling particularly salty and completely disillusioned about ethical consumption under capitalism, etc. etc. I wish people on Lemmy could have some empathy and not just assume that everyone driving a Tesla is sanctioning anything that Elon Musk does.
He was a boldfaced liar six years ago, too. You fell for the “full self driving by 2016” scam and the other false claims and fabrications.
I’m currently driving that VW TDI – best car I’ve ever owned in 35 years. Next vehicle wasn’t going to be a Tesla, but perhaps an F150 Lightning if they ever get their head out their asses and offer a regular old e-pickup – I don’t want quad cab and a short bed, just two doors and a regular full size bed would be great. Alas, that’s hard to find in ICE, let alone electric.
…and even those are likely pre-ElonSeigHeil purchases.
Womp womp.
Good.
