• FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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    Well, yes and no.

    It’s good to see people demonstrating against fascism in a very public way, but Carney’s an international banker, and they need someone who is actually going to work to fix housing and wealth inequality. Carney’s likely failure to do that will eventually lead to an embrace of fascism, just as it did here in the US.

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    If Trump tries to invade Canada, just tell us where to line up. We will be ready to fight alongside you for your freedom.

    Signed, an American.

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        Are you people actually stupid? Everyone thinking Americans just take this stuff are fucking dumb

        In my life time protests have never stopped and sometimes they get stuff done. people have tried assassinating multiple presidents and members of Congress.

        Just because YOU aren’t fighting doesn’t mean the rest of us aren’t.

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          I go to protests at my courthouse every week man. Like you said they never stop, but it also doesn’t stop what’s happening.

          It hasn’t stopped what happened to the federal government, and it wouldn’t stop a military takeover of Canada. The kind of fighting we need is considered “disruptive” by almost everyone, and there’s never enough people willing to do it. Not to mention the fraction of people who protest or do anything at all is so fucking small that I’m comfortable saying by and large, Americans are not fighting.

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    Blows my mind that nearly 30% of Canada voted to hand the country over to Trump, which is what electing Polliverre would have achieved. Both are taking marching orders from the Kremlin.

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      I wouldn’t celebrate this victory too hard as this looks a lot like the 2020 US election and we all know things turned out the following election. I don’t follow Canadian politics too closely but they seem to share a lot of the same issues with the US, so the Liberals better use the Democrats as an outline of what not to do if they want to retain any sort of power and influence in the future.

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      ~30% of the people seem to be the mark for “will actively vote for fascism to destroy the country because of my prejudice and hatreds.”

      It was 32% for us in the US.

      It was 33% for Hitler and the Nazis in ‘32.

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        Didn’t AFD get 20% in Germany’s last election?

        Do not make the mistake of thinking that trump can only happen in America.

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          No sane person who has been paying attention to global politics would make that mistake. I’ve been watching Canada’s elections with a lot of wary interest. It looks like they’ll be ok. For now.

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        21% in germany, the country that swore “never again” and the party is now nearing 30% as well in polls.

        They would’ve won if it wasnt for a huge turnout that hadnt happened in a long time, and I think part of it was because of USA as well.

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    I agree but i don’t agree that anything is a shower thought and even more rarely do political options fit in as one.

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      I agree. Right now this community seems to be mostly r/popularopinions moreso than true shower thoughts.

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        I think that reeses peanut butter cups aren’t very good. Make that political.

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        Nah, this opinion of yours for example is just a simplistic soundbite that you think might sound informed and intelligent but it is not.

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        not only all opinions, but literally everything. the people who disagree either dont understand what that means or cant be bothered to learn to admit it.

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          “I think the weather is rather nice today.”

          This opinion is now about global warming and the impact of logistics in post imperialist globalist consumerism.

          Because I’m first year in uni and have just discovered politics and you bet I can shoehorn it into anything.

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          Wait, you think the moon is real, and not a reflector for the Jewish cabal leftist elite space laser charging system? Why do you think all the crators are up there? Impact sites from V2 Rockets that the nazis used to try to blow it up back in the 40’s.

          /s obviously, but I hate that it’s more sane than some of the actual responses I’ve seen from Republicans making everything political.

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          If the moon is made of cheese, then NASA is lying to us. Saying the moon is made of cheese is a conspiracy that undermines science and the government. That’s political.

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          So, you have been in a coma for the last 10 years? Oh boy, you should sit down before you start catching up on politics in the US…

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    I’m American, but I’ve been keeping tabs on the election, and I’m so happy that you learned from our mistake. Fingers crossed the Liberals can get a majority; keep fighting against our fascist turd president. 🇨🇦

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    Not appropriate enough.

    Unironically over 30% of people somehow still voted conservative.

    I’m ashamed to admit a very large amount of them are from my area.

    I don’t know what is wrong with some people. The education system has clearly desperately failed many of the people here though.

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      I always get nervous when people call other people stupid because they don’t act like them.

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        Sorry. Naive and easily fooled by propaganda and disinformation that feeds into their bigotry

        My bad ❤️

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      over 30% of people somehow still voted conservative.

      It’s similar numbers for determined trump supporters. 30-40% of people just seem to enjoy the idea of living under a punishing overload. Maybe it makes them feel safe, or they think of themselves as superior so presume they’ll end up on top. Probably a lot of other drivers as well - poverty and uncertainty seem to play a role.

      I tend to think of this more as a flaw we possess as an organism, something we need social institutions to counteract, rather than as the personal failing of one in every two or three people.

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        Yup. It’s always about a third of people. It never seems to vary. And often they gain power because the country’s electoral system sucks.

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    I disagree. It should have been a complete landslide.

    The fact that Pierre Poilievre received any votes at all suggests that almost $5m Canadians are still fuckheads.

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      That is a bold statement. Do you personally see what the motivations of all five million voters are?

      I’m sure not all conservative voters voted for peter rabbithair because they like trump. Some people just want change and are not aware or do not care about the political reality we face.

      How do you sway these voters if you denigrate them? If this minority government falls in a few months, then what?

      We need to explain why voting a certain way is detrimental to democracy in Canada, not put down because of how someone voted.

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      Minority liberal governments are more progressive so I’m all for it. Let the fuckheads revel in it.

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        This was my take as well - liberals are pretty centrist generally, which has its advantages, but having to cooperate with a smaller progressive party keeps them accountable. I liked what the NDP was able to leverage our of the last government, and I’m hopeful that the NDP and Greens (or, well, Green) can continue to punch above their weight as kingmakers here.

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        As of 4:54am today, PP’s losing by 3793 votes with 264 out of 266 polls reporting.

        There are 105,889 registered voters in his district of Carleton with 83,756 valid votes counted and reported. That leaves only 22,133 potential votes remaining. However, many of those are likely no shows (turnout is never 100% in Canada).

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      To be clear, Poilievre has not received 5 million votes, the Conservative party has. And in fact, as of writing this comment, Poilievre is losing in his riding.

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        I live in a safe Australian LNP seat, the odds are that on Saturday night, our neighbours and I are (very likely) going to continue having a Right-Wing member of Parliament.

        That does still mean that even though they are voting for our local MP, they are also voting for a former 1980s Queensland Cop with a suspiciously large amount of money as PM.

        I would be happy if every (Australian) Coalition candidate and all the Right-Wing independent candidates received Zero votes this election, otherwise there are too many Australian Fuckwits.

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          Dude my friend explained it to me like this “I might be able to buy a house but at least I don’t see homos on the street”

          Hatred is more powerful then love.

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          I grew up in an electorate that had been ‘blue-ribbon Liberal’ since the 70s, and Labor representation only a tiny blip before that. Became very apathetic about voting after seeing the LNP win by a landslide at every local, state and federal election.

          I’m now in a seat that’s been either Labor or Greens since almost Federation. One seat in the House of Reps won’t change the world (or even the country, most likely), but it’s comforting to walk around my neighbourhood and know that the majority of the people I encounter are certified Non-Fuckwits. (It’s also fun on polling day to see offers of LNP and far-right parties’ how-to-vote cards declined by pretty much everyone in the queue.)

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            No worries. I’m the silly bugger that mistyped. I’m trying to think of a way to blame AutoCorrect…

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              Oh that’s easy! Just tell everyone you’re an investment banker so you’re always typing dollars and it just does that now. Of course, then you’d have to live with people thinking you were an investment banker, so… Options.

              Heh. Options. Like stocks.

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                  I just woke up and I thought this was someone’s attempt at a haiku, lol.

                  I have edited-

                  My original post. Now-

                  We both look like goofs.

                  It kinda works!

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    it also demonstrates what can happen when multi-million-dollar media organizations don’t polarize your electorate. politics isn’t a fucking team sport, america.

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      We may not have Fox News, but we have lots of right news media (Post Media, The Globe and Mail, Stephen Crowder). The Conservatives have also been running ads for over a year attacking Trudeau, something that is blatantly against Canadian election laws, but clearly they found some sort of loophole, and these are more than likely being funded by conservative groups from down south or overseas.

      For any Canadians that don’t know, this is what Harper (our former conservative PM) is up to now.

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      No, this is a failure on that front. The Conservatives should be a non-factor now, but they’re disturbingly close. This is a tight election that has kind of crushed the left-ish party.

      The country is deeply polarized, and it’s entirely the fault of billionaires and their media companies

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        Alright but let’s not forget that the Liberals were about to get removed from the face of the map when it was projected before Christmas.

        The Conservatives were never going to be a non-factor, and only 4 months ago were looking to be sleepwalking into a majority. Luckily Trudeau stepped down and we got the result we saw tonight. Thankfully the CBC will live on.