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- It’s $80
- It’s on Gamespass, where I assume a lot of doom fans who might have otherwise purchased are likely to be.
- It’s shouldered up against Expedition 33 and Oblivion Remake, both over $20 cheaper and highly acclaimed.
- It’s $80
Oh & denuvo
Denuvo is the only reason I’m waiting. I’m on Linux, and I’m not risking that Proton change license issue. And also I hate the performance hit that Denuvo causes.
Proton ? What’s up with that ?
Denuvo will revoke your licence to play a game if it thinks you’ve installed the game on computers with different hardware. Issue is it gets confused by changing the proton version that runs the game, thinking it’s a new install on a new computer, and so quickly bans you from playing the game.
Oh now I get the picture, jesus it’s that bad huh
That, unfortunately https://www.404media.co/doom-the-dark-ages-drm-is-locking-out-linux-users-who-bought-the-game/ namely that each new Proton “install” e.g. switching version because there is a bug counts as a new install which are limited.
For the bigger picture https://www.defectivebydesign.org/
I just wished GOG put more effort, because their Anti-DRM stance is cool AF. I recently bought The Earth-2150 trilogy from GOG
Mostly this. I’m not paying for something that comes with malware. Not for $80, $20, or $1. Nobody should pay for malware.
I might create a VM to play it for $1 tbf. But yeah I think I’m drawing the line at $5 for anything with denuvo
Yup. I would have bought Persona 5 Royale and SMT V on day one, if there was no Denuvo. I normally don’t open my wallet for $60 games.
Super Robot Wars Y? Not on my radar anymore. Denuvo has cost the companies at least $300+, and I am not a rich dude.
up against Expedition 33
I mean… I don’t play Doom due to DRM but also to be fair Expedition 33, which I’m enjoying quite a lot on Linux, is “just” 40ish hours whereas Doom is (check notes) less than 20hrs to complete? WTH. Nope.
20 and 40 hours both sound pretty terrible for such expensive games. Got far more out of games like Factorio and for a lot less.
I’d rather have a 20 hour game that is engaging the entire time than a game that has a ton of filler in it.
Factorio is engaging the entire time. Not a massive fan on story games because that severely limits the playtime you get from the game.
Gonna wait for a code and a sale in a year
Also, it reviewed well but with some annoying caveats.
Where is it $80?
Steam, the cheapest I see it as is 79,99€ where I am, which is actually US$90. I just assumed the US store did a straight numeral conversion to dollars, but you’re getting a discount too, it seems.
Not in Australia, it’s $120 here.
Todd, Marty, Phil and Satya can suck an egg together.
80€ in Steam Spain.
79,99€ in Germany
I am interested, but not that much to pay more than 20€ in a sale in a few years. It was the same with Doom Eternal. And I haven’t bought it too this day 😅
Maybe it will never be bought 🤷🏻♂️
Also… I think you missed this one… It’s $80.
It’s $70
Depends on your location in the world. Which shows just how arbitrary the price actually is.
Because of the tariffs that only apply to the US, see, they have to charge more for digital goods in other countries because reasons.
It’s also 80€ in Europe. Everyone I talked to is waiting for the price to drop, including me.
It’s £70 in the uk, that’s $95 while in the us it costs $70, which is £50. Xbox did the same thing with the new call of duty, their regional pricing is so braindead.
Historically AAA games have been £10 less than the us counter part ($60 games were £50) and making this change is so stupid.
$130 NZD, I don’t want to guess what $80 USD games are going to “convert” too 😮💨
I just aquired a value cap to my interest in digital entertainment. Using the vacation money on living/home improvements and built for life camping gear. €25 indie rpg’s and films for the tablet is enough but then again I have no teenage children that demand top shelf brands or else.
Expedition 33 kinda takes all my time.
Game is mid imo
I paid about £3.50 for Doom 2016 last week and around £12 for eternal, having not played a doom game since Doom 3’s launch. I’m enjoying the 2016 one and will look forward to Eternal in a week or 3 once I finish that. what I won’t do is pay £70 for a doom game. I might consider a games for windows sub to get it that way, but that remains to be seen.
Game for windows sub? You mean Gamepass?
I hope this shows companies that selling their games at 80 Euro is not the way to go.
The reverse-Midas of Microsoft, whatever they buy turns to shit.
It has nothing to do with quality, most people played it on game pass instead of buying it.
How nice for Microsoft, I’m sure it’s a big success.
Game pass is a big success for them as far as anyone can tell.
They’ll undoubtedly retain all of the people who came to play Dreck Aegis, after all it’s state of the art and highly replayable, like any Doom game.
It doesn’t really matter if people stick around to play a single game, they’ll almost certainly explore other games and stick around for the service. That’s the idea I think they’re going for.
I’d be curious to see how many CoD players stuck around.
I’m one of the biggest fans of the DOOM franchise, I’ve played all the versions since the original one in 1993. But I don’t care if I play it now or in half a year. Or a year for that matter. Never really understood why having it first matters to anyone. I’ll be here when the prices drop.
I was stupid enough to buy Spacemarine 2, when it came out, at full price (mostly because I loved Boltgun so much) and that was a great lesson about how you should wait around a bit before actually buying a game. It would have been a fun game for 15 or even 20 euro, but it’s not worth 70 euro. I Should have bought Helldivers, anyway 😓
I’m on the same boat, I got 2016 around Eternal release date for like €10 and loved it. Then I bought Eternal just last year for a similar deal and I haven’t finished the DLC yet. I am more than happy to wait for DA to go on sale.
I bought Space Marine 2 at launch, decided it needed more time. So I got Helldivers 2 which I immediately got addicted to and I love it.
I regretted buying HellDivers. I honestly think that it becoming as popular as it did is a damning indictment of the state of coop shooters.
That price was doomed.
I just want id to do something else. Doom is fun and all but they’ve kinda perfected it.
Commander Keen remake when?
They tried in 2019.https://youtu.be/Znd0kUXpdts https://youtu.be/BpneMd8xTFw
For some reason they cancelled it after the gameplay trailer was released.
Commander Keen, like you’ve never seen him before! Now in high res 8k textured raytraced 60 fps 3D! It’s a shooter! Upgrade your blaster with online upgrades! Skins! Online co-op! DLC! AI chatbot npcs! Lootboxes! Gacha eggs! Sprawling open procedurally generated world! And new for nextgen… play as Kendra Keen!
!!!
Maybe leave it be.
Her name was Billie, daughter of the original Billy Blaze.
Luckily it was cancelled. Looks like the folks who played the original weren’t keen on playing a slow mobile cashgrab.
But the non-gameplay trailer was nice. https://youtu.be/BpneMd8xTFw
It’s 300﷼, that’s 70 USD i think, what did they expect? I’ll wait for it be cracked. I’m patient.
I can buy 12 indie games with that alone.
*fewer than
Pedantic about something even experts argue about. Nice
What “experts” argue about that?
Literally Cambridge University in 2004 and recently again
You will often hear less used with plural countable nouns in informal spoken situations, but traditionally it is not considered to be correct:
We’ve got less pizzas than we need. There’s ten people and only eight pizzas. (traditionally correct usage: fewer pizzas)
And a good blog post on the topic that actually fits to this situation
He goes on to point out what less/fewer purists often ignore: that even countables may, in a given context, be considered as quantities rather than numbers. “For instance: 'Not many of these buildings are fewer than thirty years old.’ The thought here is not of individual years but of a period of time; therefore, less.”
Which is precisely what’s happening here.
This is the same “argument” that says “literally” can mean “figuratively”.
Not a particularly interesting argument to point put that common misusage can alter meaning.
Oh no, language is evolving! Best be angry.
What a weird reply…
Do you think I’m angry?
I know I’m not offended by a language changing. Dunno about you 🤷♂
Oh yes. My pedantry is nearly boundless.
I’m pretty sure that’s exactly how they want it to be. If they were interested in selling games they wouldn’t put them day one on gamepass.
We went through this song and dance with Indiana Jones and Avowed, too. If this was a strategy that lost them money, they’d stop doing it. It turns out they’re just fine with having tens of millions of subscribers that like the idea of getting access to games like these for, in plenty of cases, cheaper.
They can also probably do some accounting hijinks to write off these “losses” while still profiting on it for a long long time. But this is purely speculative on my part, I’m not an accountant so I’m not sure something like that can be done.
meant to mislead potential players into thinking the game is successful when, in fact, it’s severely underperforming behind the scenes.
Why would a player in a single-player game give a tiny shit about how popular it is? It’s the investor class that cares about that; stop treating their interests as a natural good.
It’s a bad game
“Investor class”, lol wtf is this new lunacy?
That term is decades old, it’s fine if you haven’t heard it before but maybe consider that possibility before replying like that and looking like an asshole.
It’s old lunacy. Believe it or not we live in a class based society where the vast majority of the people that actually provide value to society have their labor stolen by leeches that make money by having money and that is what that person means by the investor class.
Lol wut? Are you 15 years old?
Oh, I never thought of it like that.
What a great criticism! You’re obliviously someone who has thought long and hard about this topic
Doesn’t seem that you thought for more than a second.
I guess licking boots gives you a lot of time to think. What’s your favorite flavor of polish?
Dude/Dudette…
What… what the fuck is your entire account?
You have like a weeks worth of recent comments, and 90% of them you are downvoted to oblivion, just no matter what comm you are, what you are talking about, its just you being insufferable and/or contrarian and/or confidently wrong.
Then further back than that, 2, 3 months, you have some actually informative and useful comments, funny commentary most people liked, and that just keeps going.
Did your account get hacked? Did you suffer a TBI. Get fired, partner broke up with you?
Like I really am not trying to be a dick here, you good man/gal?
You come back after about 2 months of absence and you are now seemingly intentionally just trying to be shitty basically all the time.
Thanks for taking the time to check, blocked them.
This is Lemmy; everything is politics and it’s really fun and mentally healthy
everything is politics
Literally this
it’s really fun and mentally healthy
Uh oh, someone’s upset their world view is challenged by people pointing out life’s problems!
Sounds healthy…
I don‘t buy any digital copy of a game for over 45 bucks, doesn‘t matter what it is… I also haven‘t finished DOOM 2016 yet and haven‘t even started Eternal. Not because they‘re bad games or because I don‘t like FPSs, but because I have so much shit to play and so little time.
Competition is fierce and asking 80 bucks when I got the predecessors for less than 5 each is just not happening. Just because games cost more to produce doesn‘t magically make customers have more money and time. It‘ll make release weeks stinkers outside of your GOTYs and makes more people wait or go back to 20+ years worth of other games that aren‘t 80 bucks.
$20 is the limit for me. I’m perfectly fine waiting a few years to play the game, if it still exists by that point. If it doesn’t, then I’m glad I didn’t waste my time.
And another plus is that you get to play the games as bug free as they‘ll get AND at higher framerates assuming your hardware improved in the meantime. I certainly wouldn‘t have been able to get the high fidelity DOOM 2016 experience I can get now (at a high framerate) way back when it released.
Downside is that if there‘s any multiplayer component to a game, it‘s probably pretty damn dead years later. But first, I personally don‘t care much about that anymore and second, games bleed the majority of their playerbase within months anyway so it‘s whatever.
Amen.
Games cost more to produce but there’s more customers than ever
And its certainly not the developers who are getting all that extra money.
