I know we have our complaints about the browser, but I liked this one :)
I’d prefer less ads, less budget for the CEO and less shady AI and crap opted in by default.
true and I agree to all of that, but this ad is actually nice.
How about no AI and crap opted-in by default? Seriously, Vivaldi is great for my needs, and I haven’t had any problems using ublock origin and other ad blocking extensions with it.
I like Vivaldi, but in my experience, LibreWolf is even better at blocking some of the worst ads.
But does YouTube work with it?
Yup
Sorry can’t do 80% of my revenue is from Google
Waterfox is right there
Waterfox didn’t come out of thin air, though. It still needs Firefox to provide an updated browser code so they can do their changes. I doubt they could handle a full browser standalone on their own.
Oh yeah. But, they rip out all the ai. I’ll stick with that until Firefox makes it impossible (which they almost certainly will).
I’ll move on after that.
An LLM in my browser is completely unnecessary and actively useless
The Internet you loved is still here.
No it isn’t. The internet I loved is long-since dead. This is the same shit internet. Firefox doesn’t magically bring you to a wondrous new world of memes, and sites can still collect enough data on your device usage to build massive advertising profiles for you, despite what one may have convinced themselves of with a plethora of extensions. Also feels weird calling out browsers with built-in AI, considering the CEO’s dreams to integrate AI even deeper into Firefox.
It’s a cute ad, but the core messaging is flawed.
While Firefox alone doesn’t transport you to that internet, I think the point is that browsers like Firefox are one of the pieces that makes up that older experience. Fediverse being another, I would say a lot of us are here because we remember this style of social media.
They have improved the intentionality of the AI features, I wish they had it opt-out and easily configurable from the start. I moved to Zen a while back (which still relies on Firefox pushing out updates)
I’ve been ride or die with FF since before Chrome was a thing. I keep Vivaldi installed for a few things, but FF is my daily driver.
I know that Mozilla has made some decisions that I don’t agree with, but the Internet would be worse off without FF.
Same even on Android. If a site doesn’t work well with FF, Vivaldi usually works. Vivaldi is also better for PWAs.
PWAs
Poles With Attitudes?
Progressive Web App, basically a webpage built with html/css/js/etc but designed to act more as an application.
Try waterfox.
It’s a great ad! Sadly the underlying message is simply not true. Regardless of the browser you use (and I do use firefox) the old internet is no longer there. Now it’s just four apps full of brain dead content. It’s quite sad actually. Loved the video though, it made me smile :_)
You say, while adding content to an alternative part of the internet!
The old internet is still around. It just doesn’t show very high on most search engines because of SEO bullshittery
I don’t know, small personal websites and webrings are having a bit of a comeback. Federated networks are humming along ,if not growing. AI is, ironically, making it much easier for people to build their own tools and ditch SaaS.
I still have hope for a decentralization comeback.
It’s still there, folks have just gotten so used to using those same four shit apps that they forgot how to surf the web.
How do you do fellow
kidsadults?Firefox is controlled opposition for Chrome so that Google can claim they aren’t a monopoly in the browser scene. It’s why Mozilla always makes stupid decisions in spite of making an otherwise quality browser software.
The internet of the past also didn’t need 4GB of RAM to render a page.
Firefox is pretty great, but I prefer privacy and security by default, which is why I run librewolf only over VPN. I could go TOR, but man that’s a pain.
Lmao, they got chuck testa, i wonder how his business doing.
I have to keep a version of Chrome around because Firefox refuses to support or won’t support web USB. But other than that my daily driver is Zen. Firefox based. And I wouldn’t trade it.
I do this too, but I can very much respect the decision not to support any kind of hardware-level access from a web browser.
Why… Why would you?
I mean rhetorical, but god why. I want many layers between me and any internet browser.
Not OP, but it’s insanely useful for microcontroller stuff
Was part of a team who created an esp32 based gadget for “regular” people at a convention, and it was super easy to set up a website that reflashed the device if they wanted to change something or messed something up
No need for users to install weird sdks, tool chains or using a terminal
basically same here
Yes Firefox has pretty much been my daily driver since before it was called Firefox. And the UI overhaul in zen definitely elevates it. I wish the Mozilla Foundation was less focused on AI and advertisement bullshit and more focused on things like UI improvements or web USB support etc. The underlying engine is pretty decent. But it’s the foundations behavior that really makes it not viable for a lot of people.
same here & couldn’t agree more
Tay Zonday and Overly Attached Girlfriend haven’t aged a day.
That’s because they’re magic and wonderful and are being protected at all costs.
Some money for Laina. Nice!
I see Laina, I updoot. I see praise or well-wishing for Laina, I updoot.
I like the way Tay Zonday moved away from the mic (to breathe in).
Omg, shoes
Let’s party
The internet I loved was a library. The internet now is a store.
And you’re the product
You’re the ATM card.
fuck mozilla
