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It’s a shame that lithium fires are hella toxic. Is love to grill up some hot dogs.
I love this. I love this so much.
Come on guys get Tesla stocks to 0!
Already planning on it 😎
According to our Government this is WORSE then Shooting up an Elementary School!
…and of course the local police will protect the fucking Nazi owned dealerships.
What does protesting in front of Tesla achieve, it’s a private company, just boycotting their products is enough to hurt them, they need to protest the goverment goons and get that cunt impeached and save democracy
You know what helps a boycott? Protesting.
its working, plus the car burnings too. its a concerted effort all over the world. less likely to be written off as a once-off situation.
It gets Elon super mad which is funny. Also what do people who are not in the United States supposed to do? Protest in front of their own countries governmental buildings? What’s that going to achieve.
you havnt been watching the news, or are stuck ion elons x bubble.
Elon hates it. Elon is a part of our government. Our government is buying Tesla to prop him up. If you just crawled out of a fucking rock there’s your answer.
Here’s another answer for you after decades of seeing assholes outside of a Planned Parenthood. Fuck you if you think people shouldn’t protest outside of Tesla.
Even if tesla implodes and files for bankruptcy tomorrow. It’s still not gonna save your country
Username checks out.
No it doesn’t. Just Background Noise is awesome, unlike this clown.
Any given act of protest isn’t enough to save the country. But multiple acts building on each other will. It’s about continuing to apply pressure, one step at a time, until the fascist regime topples.
There are a lot of European keyboard warriors that don’t seem to know much about America (other than social media) that keep trying to call out Americans for not “protesting right.”
It shows that they have no clue about the size of the country or the fact that the shock and awe that started this administration knocked everyone on their heels and only now are we starting to mobilize.
I try to stay out of American politics because I get that my views are probably skewed being in Europe, but I do see his approval ratings close to and sometimes above 50% on certain areas.
Without telling you what to do about it, I must admit it scares me to think that there are millions of people agreeing with what he’s doing. It feels like the US is a preassure cooker only just getting started, slowly inching towards a disastrous explosion.
What are the realistic potential outcomes of everything going on?
@Bronzie @GoofSchmoofer I get it, from the UK. We’ve had the same uncanny valley experience with Brexit going on for years and the same incompetence from politicians (who STILL pretend a massive majority voted “no deal” rather than 52% voting “mystery box”). If it’s any consolation, after a really dragged-out leaving process where we didn’t see any effects for years, most people now think it was a terrible idea. Hopefully the swift insanity going on in the US means minds will change quicker.
Civil War and WW3. Potentially at the same time.
What are the realistic potential outcomes of everything going on?
Not sure. I don’t think anyone really is.
Part of the reason that there are not big protest yet is that many many people that do disagree with the administration have/had been looking towards the Democratic party to fight back. But that isn’t happening which is adding to the shock and awe of things. Truly Americans don’t really know what to do and without a large organizing presence to help drive a big push back there really isn’t anything being done.
I do hope that someone steps up soon and starts to organize a push back. Haven’t seen it yet.
@GoofSchmoofer @Bronzie I’ve been watching and I think quite a lot has already been happening, it’s just not well covered by the news. A lot of big, furious town halls are just organically happening (Rs are scared to turn up). 50501 and Indivisible have organised a lot of stuff. And some of the Tesla Takedowns have been huge.
Maybe not, but when someone is strangling you, it feels really good to stick your thumb in their eye.
I mean the problem with your argument is then that there’s nothing we can do, as there isn’t really any pathway towards impeachment right now. As Republicans hold both houses and have pretty clearly shown their loyalty to Trump even with the fact that they’re getting so much backlash they won’t hold town halls anymore. So at this point these kinds of protests are one of the few ways to try and hurt the people in power, as well as to start building community that is needed for any kind of more direct action. It also gives Trump and Elon the opportunity to overreact against protests (like if they decide to follow through on the domestic terrorism thing) which will further galvanize people into action.
I’m curious if anyone knows if cars, especially electric cars, are vulnerable to EMPs?
Technically yes, but practically no.
All cars with computers are vulnerable
So like 95-99% of cars registered in a developed economy.
Sounds about right, yeah.
For cars, you’re gonna need something a bit bigger. Large coil, capacitor bank to generate a static field and some high explosives to disrupt that field to give the pulse. It fries the wires in a car. Single use only.
You’re going to need some really big conventional explosives to affect an EMF in any way. Not clear on the math, but at that point, blowing up the vehicle with a smaller amount of explosives would be much more efficient.
Sounds like an awesome YT video for backyard scientist or action labs or alpha phoenix or definitely styro pyro
“Sorry but I only have video about the construction process. All the cameras I’ve set up got fried when I’ve set this thing off, including the memory cards. It even messed up the magnetic tape in the old school relic we had as a backup. With that out of the way, let’s get into the construction. This episode is sponsored by …”
Disclaimer - not an electromagnetic scientist wizard
My understanding is that EMPs are more of a concern for the tiny electronics on computers versus relatively large motors or batteries. So, an electric vehicle is still at risk, but I don’t think it’d be any more at risk than any ICE car that’s all computerized anyways.
It would probably mess up the controlling computer though.
Occasionally cars get hit by lightning and that usually causes a lot of errors and glitches and sometimes it totally writes off the vehicle.
With all the touch screens and computer controlled door handles I wouldn‘t bet on a Tesla in this showdown.
thats one of the many downsides of making everything computer
“Everything’s computer”
Nuke type EMPs are a threat to very long wires, like miles long ones used to transmit power. The blast causes a ripple in the earths magnetic field that induces current over huge distances. But I don’t know what a more handheld device would affect.
Electric motors work by inducing a magnetic field with coils of wire, so I’m sure a strong enough EMP would disrupt it temporarily, but I don’t know if it would meaningfully damage anything after the EMP ceased.
They’re made specifically to deal with high electromagnetic flux, so it definitely wouldn’t hurt them long term. Best bet would be something higher frequency to mess with the computers.
Got it, so it’s best to use a nuke just to be safe.
From what I understand, the vulnerability of a chip has to do with the operating voltage of the chip. As chips have become smaller, and more efficient, they have also become less vulnerable to EMP. Higher voltage components are more vulnerable, like the motors, but I don’t think you are going to get a man-portable device that will damage them. Maybe one that would fit in a vehicle, but you would have to be very close (inverse square law) and you would have to find a way to not fry your own vehicle.
Not a chip designer, nor an electrician, if anyone with more credibility wants to jump in here, please do.
just interference, but you need a nuke to initiate an EMP effectively. i think some ev cars were susceptible to other forms of interference.
While I think the legality for such a device is a gray area one strong enough to damage or stop a car could kill or injure anyone around with a cardiac device or other electronic medical equipment.
https://www.ijnrd.org/papers/IJNRD2305791.pdf
Build one and report back. 🤷
Hmmm. Well, I do love taking apart old microwaves…
It’s quite dangerous, the magnetron can kill very easily. There’s this youtuber called styropyro who’s done some really cool stuff with them though
He’s a treasure. The inside of a microwave is insane in its casual dangers. Like that HV capacitor, or, more insidiously, the beryllium insulator that can cause berrylliosis if broken and inhaled.
Sounds like you don’t even have to do anything to make it dangerous. Heck, let’s just chuck broken microwaves at the Teslas.
In all seriousness microwaves are the #1 leading cause of death for hobby electronics people, be careful around them and know what you’re doing before you open it.
I didn’t realize they were the #1 killer. Most of them via electrocution of the HV capacitor, I would imagine?
15ish years ago I got lucky and didn’t kill myself on the first one I ever cracked open. I managed to become marginally more intelligent and after poking around in it decided it’d be smart to research the art of microwave dismantling, which led to a minor anxiety attack and cold sweats when I realized how stupid I had been.
Same with old televisions and that flyback transformer. 😬
Hahaha, funny you mention that. I was this close to trying to open an old CRT set many years ago when that little voice in my head said, hey, maybe look up what happens when you do that. I decided I didn’t need to go through with it.
That being said, DLP sets are my absolute favorite to dig into. So many awesome optical components, mirrors, and cooling fans inside. I didn’t find anything that seemed too dangerous, either.
Yep. That HV capacitor will turn you into orbital bacon with a quickness, and it keeps a charge for way longer than you’d ever think was realistic. In the same vein as “assume every gun is loaded”, also assume every capacitor is charged.
I think I even read it can gradually spontaneously self-charge if left alone long enough with the terminals insulated from each other. I don’t know if that’s actually true (it would seem to be a sort of Maxwell’s Daemon at that point), but yeah, best to not take chances.
They do charge over time when terminals are not shorted, but it’s not like they go from discharged to spontaneously fully charged in seconds. It’s a slow creep that happens over an extended time period.
That’s a lot of coverage they know they probably shouldn’t cover…
I’d say that’s a bad day to be near a Tesla dealership.
Burn it to the mother fucking ground. The line must go down.
I wonder if we will finally get a visible notion of the inaction in protests in the US compared to the rest of the world.
I bet non-US protests will average at 2000 people per, but protests in the US will total 2000 people.
If I was insuring Tesla or their showrooms in any way, I would see to get rid of this contract as fast as possible.
I wouldn’t. That would be covered under the force majeure clause, so no need to pay anything to Tesla, but you can increase premiums by a lot and earn crap loads doing absolutely nothing.
This guy insurances.
The potential side effects of ketamine include dissociative experiences that may lead to confusion or impaired motor coordination, cognitive disturbances, and, with repeated misuse, the risk of developing a substance use disorder.
Also, one that we surely don’t talk about much, being hated by the general population. That might be correlation instead of causation though.
and he also regularly drowns his depression away with ALCOHOL, and hypes up with cocaine.
I’m worried about the next Rittenhouse. Stay safe out there and watch out for the “good guy with a gun”
You can counter a rittenhouse with a second amendment.
I love when someone brings up Rittenhouse because I dated someone who went to high school with him, so I know quite a bit about him.
Turns out all of the signs were there and his mom encouraged that type of stuff :)
They’re often are signs. I was at school with someone that ended up being a murderer. He was a super weird kid, his father wasn’t around and his mother was an alcoholic so he never really had a great upbringing, schools response to all this was to get him suspended whenever he acted up.
I’m sick of worrying about being killed over my freedom of speech in this so called free country and I think I’d rather die by calling out some fascist than cancer or living under tyranny anyways.
None of you are immortal so figure it the fuck out.
Don’t physically assault anyone and you’ll be okay.
Damn those school kids must have been rowdier than I thought.
What school kids? Do you not know who Rittenhouse is?
Where can a civilian get a good bulletproof vest?
They sell plate carriers at my local gun store.
Lol all over
Are you American??? Or a spy?
In the US I’m pretty sure you can just buy them online.
Do John wick style bullet proof suits actually exist (and work)?
You mean the ones that completely negate impact damage? I think those would violate physics.
You are supposed to be able to get flexible bulletproof armor that isn’t made of Kevlar but some kind of non-Newtonian gel, but I don’t know how good it is.
Short answer : No
Long answer : Bullet proof is a misnomer, everything, even the air, will eventually stop a bullet. You can get a suit with ballistic fiber which will work against small and slow calibers. Keep in mind that the damage a bullet does is more than just perforating your clothing. Body armor has a rating system telling you what kind of rounds it can mitigate, although most rifle rounds require some sort of rigid plate to prevent penetration and also dissipate the impact over a large surface area. A thin, flexible bullet resistant suit or jacket is not going to do either of those things very well.
Tesla must love that they have so many professional testers
