In an attempt to better understand Lemmy I’m wondering if some of you can shed a light on what the deal is between.ml and .world. The history, any significant event or a betrayal, how did we all run away from spez only to come here and throw mud at each other?
I’m sure it confuses a great deal of Reddit refugees who just signed up with the largest instance because of (in my case future proofing) reasons.
I’m wondering how this historic feud came to be and how I can be called a “Zionist” just because of my instance, and they are called “fascists” even though I’ve come across some pretty levelheaded people from that instance too.
Please, keep it civil!
I’m not trying to start a fight or mud slinging, it would be good if several people could say their piece and nobody shame or attack them for it no matter how much you disagree.
Thanks
I’ll be locking this post, as I know for a fact that nothing but debates (which generate a flood of reports) happen with these .ml questions. I hope 197 comments is enough for you.
You can find info on .ml (and probably even .world) and their behaviour in other comms, such as !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works.
!fediverselore@lemmy.ca (even though it is currently locked) also has some info, if your instance has the posts.
“See, the problem is, that this is the fediverse,” the Cat said. “You are now among weird people.”
“But I don’t want to be among weird people here,” OP remarked.
“Oh, you can’t help that,” said the Cat: “we’re all weird here. I’m weird. You’re weird.”
“How do you know I’m weird?” said OP.
“You must be,” said the Cat, “or you wouldn’t have come here.”- Alice in Wonderland, probably.
Instances tend to be flavored towards certain groups of people. There are a particular group of 3 instances, one being Lemmy.ml the others known as hexbear and lemmygrad that cater to people who essentially think that all western society is corrupt and that NK, China, Russia, etc are the saviors of the world.
lemmy.ml happens to be the flagship instance of the software creators which causes a lot of friction in terms of if they should be cut off or not.
We make an attempt at seeing things from invaded states’ views.
Who is “we”? Because Lemmygrad literally cheered when Russia invaded Ukraine. Doesn’t seem like viewing things from the perspective of the invaded state.
As they should have.
Why?
He’s just spamming this thread because he loves far right extremist political views.
Probably because of the reasons we’ve explained ad nauseum.
I’m sure the Israel defenders have also explained their reasons ad nauseam so according to you they should be cheering Israels genocide?
https://kbin.earth/m/worldnews@lemmygrad.ml/t/3276898/Megathread-for-the-US-war-on-Iran-Week-42-of#comments
I’d say that these days that group contains four instances and dbzer0 is a member.
dbzer0 is anarchists, not communists.
they suffer from the same delusional idealism though, and belief that anyone who doesn’t think like them should be murdered.
Nah, that’s the anarchy/punk/pirate server.
Every server has some tankies or tankie leaning infiltraitors.
The admin are the problem there though.
Care to explain further? I have only had good interactions, but to be fair I don’t know that much about any drama here so 🤷🏼♀️
For .ml specifically see below, as far as dbzer0 goes, some of the admins have allegedly taken a “friendlier” stance to the Tankies. I don’t personally believe they’re going full tankie like some on the Threadiverse believe, but sometimes they make questionable decisions in pursuit of that friendliness. For example allowing hardcore tankie users to be mod in comms that were literally formed to be free of tankie influence/ideology/propaganda like !leftymemes@lemmy.dbzer0.com where the top mod is a known Tankie and openly admitted to being one just recently
Admins of .ml promote and enforce authoritarianism here’s a megathread on them
You’ll get banned for showing support for Ukraine or going against Russian narratives or if you remind them of Putlers promise to not invade or just shit talking Putler in general
Or calling out propaganda sites - https://lemmy.world/post/32776038 | https://lemmy.world/post/33416433 | https://lemmy.world/post/34051329 | https://lemmy.world/post/35919522
Or so much more, I actually haven’t updated the megathread in a few months, but there’s more recent stuff on !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works
That mod was the one that created that community though
Probably related to their admin’s (Rimu’s) false claims about dbzer0’s admins using LLM for moderation. Though it’s been months since that was a topic and got debunked. Rimu is pretty infamous on yepowertrippinbastards (which is banned on piefed.social) for his mudslinging and silencing of criticism.
Fun story I got banned on yptb for pointing out the one of their mods/admins were being ableist.
Of course they waited a week after the conversation to do that so I guess it really got under their skin.
Interesting misrepresentation of those three instances, I’d better phrase it as “users on the three support countries that directly undermine western Imperialism when forced to choose between western imperialism or other countries.” Virtually all members there understand “critical support,” which is when you support a cause overall but are still critical of aspects of it.
Found the tankie.
Good to know that blocking the instance doesn’t block its users. God dammit. Can’t you tell the people on your conspiracy server to fix that so I don’t have to endure you?
And you’re “that kind” of asatreau so careful with that salute.
The best fix is to log out and never return.
Okay, enlightened Westerner.
This obsession with east vs west is paradigmatic of tankie tribalist ideology. They can’t conceive of someone who doesn’t obsess over nationality or ethnic and cultural loyalties. Humans are humans. We should fight to be free from state oppression. Not complicated.
When you guys get on board with putting a stop to the marauding, plundering, pillaging, genocide, sexual assault, genocide, and coups, not to mention wage suppression so you can have cheap gas and trinkets, those of us with a conscience would stop obsessing. Not complicated.
It’s not “loyalties”, but culturally informed/derived ideology and attitudes and the particular brand of propaganda people are getting. This is observable, and you’re not thinking clearly about this.
it’s not “loyalties” but … the particular brand of propaganda people are getting.
State propaganda exists to engender loyalty to the regime. That’s the whole point.
They are quick to jump on any “western” wrongdoing, but equally quick to dismiss much worse from their own tribe. Because they are tribalists and nationalists who favor some nations over others — because they’re brainfucked by propaganda, as you said.
Jesus Christ, operations gladio and condor, couping/embargoing/sanctioning every government that tried differently isn’t enough?
I think you missed my point.
And uhh, maybe the actual tankies that people hate so much, but that’s not what I see on .ml, at least in my limited experience. And I have no horse in this race (I’ve not only been banned/silenced on .ml a couple of times but I’m also a believer, which is usually frowned upon in these circles, for reasons I somewhat understand), I just see the enmity/friction between instances for what it is: traditional and dishonest Western imperialists who uphold the status quo but also care about optics (and because of the latter, would never admit it unlike their “MAGA” siblings who, being challenged, actually think being inhuman and coercive for material gain are positive attributes) and those who call them out for it. Whoever complains about “tankies on Lemmy” on the regular is just telling on themselves, basically.
Ahh yes, undermine western imperialism. Unashamedly deepthroat Russian/Chinese imperialism. You are very smart!
Virtually all members there understand “critical support,” which is when you support a cause overall but are still critical of aspects of it.
I don’t think that could be further from the truth.
Oh, do you have evidence or is this just vibes?
Years of direct personal experience at this point, the vast majority I’ve interacted with have been pathologically idealistic and manichean. Maybe I just happen to interact with an extremely vocal minority, maybe. But in any case “virtually all” is patently ridiculous.
if someone is constantly running into bad faith attacks against socialist states and cold war propaganda, they’re going to tend to lead with defense rather than internal critique. that’s not the same as having no critique.
I think you’re do propagandized, you wouldn’t know truth if you look it in the face, as evidenced by your comments.
The only reason I’m on .ml is because one of the communities I wanted to subscribe to was blocked on .world
.ml was my first instance. That account is 1 month older than this one. I found slrpnk by accident and it fit my community better so I switched. I learned about the drama after lol.
Which community?
I believe it was !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com.
Out of curiosity, why not make an account on one of the anarchist flotilla instances?
.ml was another instance I was already aware of at the time, back then I didn’t know people formed opinions based on which instance you’re with either
It’s more about recognizing what kind of biases the user will likely be approaching a given topic with. .ml users obviously tend to skew towards viewing world events through a very specific lens, which then goes on to color how they interact with the rest of the fediverse.
The funny part is that when you’re a .ml user on .ml, it looks like smooth sailing and calm waters. Discussion is civil and friendly, and dissent all lands within a very specific Overton window. But once you start digging deeper, you realize it’s because the entire instance is extremely heavily moderated. It looks like everyone agrees because dissent outside of that tiny bandwidth quickly gets silenced. So as long as .ml users stay on their instance, things tend to be pretty chill.
This ironically leads to friction when those .ml users end up on external instances, because the .ml admins can’t moderate those as heavily. Plus those external users have likely seen and/or experienced the heavy-handed moderation firsthand. So they immediately assume .ml users are complicit and intentionally staying in their bubble, instead of simply being unaware.
I think my crossposting explainer should suit, in general, admins of .ml are Tankies (authoritarian communists) who support and defend authoritarian countries in all the things they do like Russia, NK and China.
They propagate Russian propaganda on Ukraine (They’re just being “liberated”), deny chinas genocides and NK is actually truly a socialist country and it’s authoritarianism is just western propaganda.
The megathread linked below documents and has a more robust explainer
You’ll get banned for showing support for Ukraine or going against Russian narratives or if you remind them of Putlers promise to not invade or just shit talking Putler in general
Or calling out propaganda sites - https://lemmy.world/post/32776038 | https://lemmy.world/post/33416433 | https://lemmy.world/post/34051329 | https://lemmy.world/post/35919522
Or so much more, I actually haven’t updated the megathread in a few months, but there’s more recent stuff on !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works
Join the lemmy.ml boycott today and help foster a better Lemmy-verse! No more posts, comments (except to counter their propaganda ofc!) or upvotes on any comms on the Lemmy.ml instance! To make this easy you can do an instance block at Settings > Block Tab > Scroll to bottom > Input “lemmy.ml” and apply And consider donating to individual instances instead.
Why am I cross-posting .ml content?
I cross-post from .ml to the nearest relevant non-.ml comm to reduce the influence of .ml comms and indirectly, the instance as a whole, to help vitalize non-.ml comms and make it an easier decision for other instance admins to defederate because one key reason I identified that admins don’t want to defederate is because .ml still has some very large comms and some active niche comms.
Some highlights from the link:
Dessalines, head .ml admin, lead Lemmy dev actively spreading genocide denialism https://sh.itjust.works/post/61371958
.ml admin, Nutomics continued transphobia https://lemmy.world/post/29222558 The original transphobic Comment from Nutomic: https://lemmy.world/post/18236068
“If you don’t support Russia then you just don’t understand geopolitics” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/27352415
"Don’t worry guys, the Uyghur Genocide was REALLY just birth control! ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/30580167
“See! nobody died IN Tiananmen Square, just AROUND it, so it doesn’t count!!” ~ Davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/30673342
“NK is actually good and anything counter to that is Western propaganda!” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/31595035
General negative sentiment to other instances who haven’t “seen the way” yet ~davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/27426510
And so so much documentation on clear heavy handed censorship and bias also on the link. So much I can’t even put them all here because this comment would be really long.
I believe the behavior of its admins (the main admins are Lemmy devs) does harm to the overall growth of the Lemmy-verse and maybe even the Thrediverse (since Lemmy kinda kicked off the Thrediverse) because of its association with the devs of Lemmy and their insistence to use .ml as their personal political platform to spread harmful propaganda
On the outside, bringing up Lemmy frequently leads to comments like “Lemmy? Isn’t that the place with a bunch of tankies?” Or “Tried Lemmy, but found it full of pro Russia crap so I left”. The best way forward from that I see is to either widely defederate from .ml like the rest of the Triad, or pressure them to put a fair and unbiased as possible admin team.
It’s libs Vs commies on an instance level. And, with Lemmy being a Western online space, libs are more numerous. 👍
.ml admins are Tankies, they’re authoritarian communists
As defined
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie
Tankie is a pejorative label generally applied to authoritarian communists, especially those who support or defend acts of repression by such regimes, their allies, or deny the occurrence of the events thereof.
You’ll get banned for showing support for Ukraine or going against Russian narratives or if you remind them of Putlers promise to not invade or just shit talking Putler in general
Or calling out propaganda sites - https://lemmy.world/post/32776038 | https://lemmy.world/post/33416433 | https://lemmy.world/post/34051329 | https://lemmy.world/post/35919522
Or so much more, I actually haven’t updated the megathread in a few months, but there’s more recent stuff on !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works
They’re not communists. They’re tankies: nationalistic authoritarians who defend police state brutality and “alternative facts” to spread disinformation courtesy of Russia and China. They’re obsessed with a west vs east dialectic.
Also, I don’t think you mean liberals strictly, but socialists — demsoc, socdem, anarchists, whatever.
Anarchists don’t respect nation states or arbitrary class divisions, which clashes hard with tankies’ rabid nationalism.
i don’t see it as east/west tribalism or nationalism at play, it’s generally people identifying what they see as a lesser evil in the situation. when it’s not interactions with hostile liberals i see plenty of earnest discussion in these spaces, literally ‘putin is someone lenin would have had shot’.
for me if i’m referring to liberals it’s anyone with a reformist orientation towards capitalism. if people are pushing that then they are more likely to compromise on important issues if given any individual power
MLs share my analysis of capitalism and imperialism. i can have disagreements with them about organization and process while agreeing on the fundamentals. plus they won’t call the cops on me.
with liberals half the time i’m arguing about whether capitalism is even the problem, or having to point out to them that war is actually bad. that’s a much bigger gap than disagreeing about revolutionary strategy.
Having strong opinions about reforming vs overthrowing capitalism doesn’t make you a tankie. Defending Russian and Chinese totalitarianism certainly does.
They’re obsessed with a west vs east tribalism and nationalism.
Having strong opinions about reforming vs overthrowing capitalism doesn’t make you a tankie. Authoritarianism and defense of state violence and the Russians and Chinese dictatorships certainly does.
isn’t this just the tribalism that you were just complaining about? every state is authoritarian and has plenty state violence, if i’m going to have issues with that it’s going to be with the states i actually live in.
not wanting to engage with propaganda narratives about state enemies from my own state doesn’t mean it’s automatically a defense of what other states are doing
Tankies defend Russian and Chinese dictatorships in particular.
Interestingly, they don’t defend (and often even condemn) other dictatorships. This is a feature of their tribalistic ideology.
then we share a position that all states are bad; i have particular ire for ones that are outright dictatorships of capital. that includes the US, all of its allies and some of its enemies.
i live in the US, so i am going to be loudest about about what my state is doing internally and what it’s sponsoring abroad. i am going to treat the propaganda narratives it produces about its enemies with suspicion, and that should not be construed with ‘defending’ anything.
it often does though.
What of authoritarian? Can you give examples of states that aren’t?
Russia’s favorite propaganda is to claim that democracy is impossible because state violence is universal. They don’t deny their own wrongdoing (the way China does): they embrace it with whataboutism.
Saying “all states are authoritarian” is meaningless. Of course all statehood is based in violence. Yet clearly citizens of Taiwan and China have different relationships with their governments.
To whit, I have no rights in China. They could disappear me for this one comment.
Hysteria isn’t a good look. Unless your family are wealthy corrupt.
No you libtard! Marx wanted name calling and calls for slaughter of entire nations.
Remember, ever threatening and ever weak and disgusting enemy is the base idea behind communism.
I keep some lemmy.ml communities on my feed because it’s refreshing to see news out of china that while likely propaganda, is at least not the usual flavor of propaganda.
When I read other countries’ propaganda, it makes me realize how much US ruling class propaganda passes through unnoticed
I’ve come across some pretty levelheaded people from that instance too
This was me (for some definition of level :D)
I joined
.mlbefore I really understood the differences. Even once I realised the connotation, I didn’t switch until I realised that !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works was blocked on that instance. That made me think about what instance I wanted to join (based on what communities I was most active in) and then I switched over here.So, there are definitely a mix of people on each instance. It makes me sad when I see people jump to conclusions based on instance, although I also understand it if 90% of their experience is of a particular type of person.
I keep meaning to find another instance although as far as I can tell it hasn’t limited my access to the communities I’m interested in (FLOSS software, technology and UK politics). Part of the inertia also comes from my experience on Mastodon which occasionally sees waves of server shutdowns when the costs become too much for individual admins to absorb. At least while the core contributers continue I can be reasonably certain the server will stay up.
In the beginning there was lemmy.ml only, BTW no one mentioned it but the dev choose .ml because “Marxism–Leninism”. It is a far-left guy with far-left ideology.
When reddit blocked its APIs a few years ago, a lot of people went to “lemmy” and a lot of new instance were created, like lemmy.world, which is not far-left, so a lot of people joined it.
They chose .ml because it was a free domain at the time.
That sub is ran by people with a serious agenda. Its like the propaganda farm of lemmy. The mods beg you to stop reporting outright disinformation and the users are argumentative for no reason and aim to radicalize people of both persuasions.
“The only acceptable propaganda is Fourteen Eyes propaganda!” 🤡
Are you one of those super motivated users there with a serious agenda? It seems like it with how much you’ve come in trying to flip tables on this thread.
https://kbin.earth/m/worldnews@lemmygrad.ml/t/3276898/Megathread-for-the-US-war-on-Iran-Week-42-of#comments
I know nothing about any of this. I’m on PieFed/feddit.online. I don’t even know if there’s bad stuff here or they’re blocking content/instances. I like the fediverse but sometime I feel lost and confused when I see posts like this. What am I missing here?
piefed is heavily filtered by default. you have to turn the filters off.
the PieFed people have their own weird agenda they push. They want things to be Disneyfied and ‘positive vibes only’. it’s not so much political per se, but they want to socially engineer user behavior in a way lemmy does not.
piefed blocking tools are superior to lemmy ones though.
Be mindful that it’s often just a handful accounts that post this stuff.
Well, alright, it’s actually 36 accounts with the username “cm0002”, but you get the idea.
Yup, it’s just me who stands against .mls authoritarianism lmao
Why am I cross-posting .ml content?
I cross-post from .ml to the nearest relevant non-.ml comm to reduce the influence of .ml comms and indirectly, the instance as a whole, to help vitalize non-.ml comms and make it an easier decision for other instance admins to defederate because one key reason I identified that admins don’t want to defederate is because .ml still has some very large comms and some active niche comms.
Some highlights from the link:
Dessalines, head .ml admin, lead Lemmy dev actively spreading genocide denialism https://sh.itjust.works/post/61371958
.ml admin, Nutomics continued transphobia https://lemmy.world/post/29222558 The original transphobic Comment from Nutomic: https://lemmy.world/post/18236068
“If you don’t support Russia then you just don’t understand geopolitics” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/27352415
"Don’t worry guys, the Uyghur Genocide was REALLY just birth control! ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/30580167
“See! nobody died IN Tiananmen Square, just AROUND it, so it doesn’t count!!” ~ Davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/30673342
“NK is actually good and anything counter to that is Western propaganda!” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/31595035
General negative sentiment to other instances who haven’t “seen the way” yet ~davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/27426510
And so so much documentation on clear heavy handed censorship and bias also on the link. So much I can’t even put them all here because this comment would be really long.
I believe the behavior of its admins (the main admins are Lemmy devs) does harm to the overall growth of the Lemmy-verse and maybe even the Thrediverse (since Lemmy kinda kicked off the Thrediverse) because of its association with the devs of Lemmy and their insistence to use .ml as their personal political platform to spread harmful propaganda
On the outside, bringing up Lemmy frequently leads to comments like “Lemmy? Isn’t that the place with a bunch of tankies?” Or “Tried Lemmy, but found it full of pro Russia crap so I left”. The best way forward from that I see is to either widely defederate from .ml like the rest of the Triad, or pressure them to put a fair and unbiased as possible admin team.
The only authoritarian is you.
Thanks! I’m always down for a good laugh!
There is no ‘deal’
There are some extremely active and vocal users on .ml that have a specific view point that they feel is extremely important.
You will see that viewpoint expressed not just on political posts, but in the comments of seemingly unrelated topics.
It seems that .ml was defederated from world to keep some separation of that view point and other topics.
You are still fully free to join any instance you want. You can even find community here to post that content if you wish, but there is a more active and vibrant community on .ml for that content.
It seems that .ml was defederated from world to keep some separation of that view point and other topics.
.ml is still federated with .world
are you thinking of hexbear.net or lemmygrad.ml ?
.ml was PREEMPTIVELY defederated. Politics affects everything.
Admins of .ml promote and enforce authoritarianism here’s a megathread on them
You’ll get banned for showing support for Ukraine or going against Russian narratives or if you remind them of Putlers promise to not invade or just shit talking Putler in general
Or calling out propaganda sites - https://lemmy.world/post/32776038 | https://lemmy.world/post/33416433 | https://lemmy.world/post/34051329 | https://lemmy.world/post/35919522
Or so much more, I actually haven’t updated the megathread in a few months, but there’s more recent stuff on !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works
Only thing I know is someone has a bug up their craw about .ml and made a bunch of accounts to repost .ml stuff to .world. It was kinda a good thing because I think this user is part of the reason my attitude toward blocking being an overall good thing evolved. I mean I realized it before from mmo chats but I think it kinda solidifed it for me. Other than that there is grousing from folks but overall I just block communities im not interested in and users that interact in ways im not cool with.
Yea, standing against authoritarian propaganda is just a “bug up my craw” lmao
Admins of .ml promote and enforce authoritarianism here’s a megathread on them
You’ll get banned for showing support for Ukraine or going against Russian narratives or if you remind them of Putlers promise to not invade or just shit talking Putler in general
Or calling out propaganda sites - https://lemmy.world/post/32776038 | https://lemmy.world/post/33416433 | https://lemmy.world/post/34051329 | https://lemmy.world/post/35919522
Or so much more, I actually haven’t updated the megathread in a few months, but there’s more recent stuff on !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works
Lemmy world is probably owned by a corporation. Since they’re the largest instance, they can control the hot page. ML is ran by the original developers of lemmy. They are full of pro communism accounts. I’ll let you decide if that’s cool.
Lemmy World definitely curates (shadow bans) people’s feed. ML probably does too.
If you’re not that political, don’t worry about it.
ML probably does too.
it’s news to me if it does, got any example?
I don’t. They are so militant about communism, that I wouldn’t be surprised. They might be just a more open sort of banning. I remember people complaining when I first got here that they were banned for mentioning Tienanmen square and other things like that. I have no personal experience. That’s why I said probably.
i will say that based on the people i’ve interacted with that have been banned from here, i am glad that i’m not seeing their posts in my feed. one example being the guy who cross-posts 100% of content from .ml to .world, having him blocked on all his n+1 alts means i don’t have to deal with duplicates in my feed.
from my experience usually people doing things like ‘mentioning tiananmen square’ are doing more than just that, often they throw in an insult while redbaiting or dehumanizing. they then go to rend their garments in their preferred hugbox about how censored they were by the evil tankies.
Yeah, maybe? I’ve stayed away.
Anything more on the shadow banning? I did catch my account being shadow banned on another instance (not world or ml).
I think the community would turn quickly against any big instance shadow banning folk. That’s what the tesseract mess was about.
Lemmy world is probably owned by a corporation.
No. It is owned by a nonprofit set up for the purpose. The person that started it brought on a few volunteers (like me) to help out. We depend on donations, and receive some recurring and one-off donations. Every few months or so, we post a short request for more donations as the donations dip below the monthly costs, and that seems to keep us going.
I’m not sure exactly what you mean by “curates” / “shadowbans”, so I won’t directly comment on that. But a large part of the reason I was brought on was to have another person looking out for spam and such.
- Non profits can still be owned by a corporation. Non profits aren’t magically the good guy.
- Since you’re a volunteer, I doubt you know the depths of it.
Well, okay, you can make up whatever you want to believe, I guess.
I could say the same for you, lol.
Admins of .ml promote and enforce authoritarianism here’s a megathread on them
They’re authoritarian communists AKA Tankies as defined https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie
Tankie is a pejorative label generally applied to authoritarian communists, especially those who support or defend acts of repression by such regimes, their allies, or deny the occurrence of the events thereof.
You’ll get banned for showing support for Ukraine or going against Russian narratives or if you remind them of Putlers promise to not invade or just shit talking Putler in general
Or calling out propaganda sites - https://lemmy.world/post/32776038 | https://lemmy.world/post/33416433 | https://lemmy.world/post/34051329 | https://lemmy.world/post/35919522
Or so much more, I actually haven’t updated the megathread in a few months, but there’s more recent stuff on !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works
You sound unwell.
Documents authoritarianism
Tankies: YOU’RE SICK
The sickness is thinking yours is morally superior
Yea documenting and presenting evidence for something distasteful someone or a group is doing is “morally superior thinking” XD
Like this: https://kbin.earth/m/worldnews@lemmygrad.ml/t/3276898/Megathread-for-the-US-war-on-Iran-Week-42-of#comments
Ok andddd what does that have to do with me, lemmy, .ml admins or Tankies?
.ml is the old instance from before Reddit exodus and it’s full of tankies and the weirdest takes you’ve ever seen (cue replies).
.world is the new popular instance.
That’s about it. Some people read into it that ml users are upset that they are no longer the default instance and can’t control the narrative. While world just doesn’t care and keeps on trucking. Who knows.
Dishonest much?
I’m glad to know it’s owned by a non-profit, that means it’s tax free, like certain churches, and it’s definitely full of Zionists, with Zionist talking points.
