Is this a “not true communism” meme?
Words mean things
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He never killed a single person but if he ever did, they deserved it
Same as Al Capone. Good guys who obviously did nothing wrong.
Is that supposed AOC? Lmfao, I’m pretty sure AOC is anti-israel.
Also, why do they always put the younger portrait of Xi, rather than the most recent one, like most western leaders do? Like just find the Baidu BaiKe (Baidu Wiki) for Xi, and compare it to the Xi on Wikipedia…
Don’t want to be reminded of your impending death due to old age, Xi? 🤔
(Like bro, just use a more recent portrait, the younger you looks like an inexperienced idiot)
There’s a faction of liberals who hate AOC the way 13-year-olds call mom a bitch for making them go to the dentist.
AOC is extremely pro Israel. She still refuses to say Israel is committing genocide.
Lol on the left two genociders, one man who i actually respect(tried to fix all the shit going on in the world, even if i dont think its the right solution, he at least tried) and one guy who i dont even know. And on the right which is aimed at people like me. Im not a democrat and i think theyre shit(tho im european and would probably vote for them because you dont even have a choice in murica), im sceptic of the new syrian leadership(but hopeful), fuck israel and nato is just free military for us but i think we should invest more into it because the us is a horrible ally as we can see in ukraine. Idk bout the rest. So yeah complete bullshit from tankies as usual.
Ask them how the Uyghurs in China are doing.
NOOOOOOO THATS FAKE NEWS THERE HAVE NEVER BEEN CONFIRMED REPORTS OF ANYTHING SOMETHING SOMETHING THEY’RE ALL HAPPY AND THE ONES WHO DIED ALL DESERVED IT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Ummm actually if you look at this CCP-approved news source, they say it’s logistically impossible to commit a genocide against that many people without anyone noticing soooo
Their answer from my last interaction:
-western propaganda
-uyghurs themselves love it
-not forced labour but a vocational school the government put these people under
-amnesty and UN is lying and unreliable
-only reliable source is the blogpost they linked
-it’s all anti terrorism effort
-western propaganda
When I brought it up he just said “devoid of context” and stopped replying.
The Uyghur part I read was they deserve it because it is mostly criminals.
The more consistent take I see simply poses the ugyur genocide falls under a similar definition that includes ongoing genocide of black americans, which tends to meet a lot of resistance.
But much more than that: what I see is issue being taken (usually at the media), with comparing Xinjiang to something like Gaza, while often also denying Israel is committing a genocide.
Or the genocide of indigenous peoples in North America, which alsi receives “resistance”, of a somewhat apopleptic fashion.
Don’t worry bro, China is only treating them as bad as the US treats black people.
It’s such odd double speak. Is China treating them terribly or are you saying that Black Americans are doing just fine?
Their answer is always “something-something western propaganda have you ever seen the camps first-hand you’re swallowing propaganda they’re not real CCP is going to solve global warming with fusion energy”
I got banned from some community or other for laughing at that last part. Not a joke, apparently.
have you ever seen the camps first-hand
Right wingers say the same about the Holocaust camps…
🤨
Please dont get me wrong here, I’m not defending the CCPs treatment of the Ulghurs, at all, and it does fit the broad definition of genocide, but it is not the same as the Holocaust death camps.
The camps in China are much more akin to the “Indian schools” that the US sent native Americans to in an attempt to get them to forget their culture and “civilize” them. Also, maybe a bit of the Japanese interment camp experience from the US in WWII.
It’s still disgusting and needs to be called out, don’t get me wrong, but its not quite the same as literal death camps, or the ongoing genocide in Gaza.
I know.
The point I’m trying to make is that the idea of “If you didn’t see it with your eyes, in person, then its fake” is not really a good argument that the tankies frequently use, since thats the same argument used by the far-right.
Imagine you believe Stalin and Winnie are left
I dont have to. I was 12 at one point too.
Edited to include neolibs
What’s the y-axis?
Authoritarianism as it approaches facism
Who’s the guy at the bottom left?
Ibrahim Traoré, a coup leader who took over Burkina Faso, whose government has proposed outlawing homosexuality.
But he’s pro-Russia, therefore, Good.
I’m not sure what you expected from a community called “late stage capitalism”
Also I find the mustache very funny
Probably expecting discussions regarding late stage capitalism such as examples and possible countermeasures.
Instead it’s whatever that is. Clickbait.
If I was a “leftist” mod of an already very left community and a meme I share with that community is about to reach -70 karma I would abandon my account, request asylum on another instance and call myself the digital Viktor Yanukovych lmao
Anyone crying about nato and specifically citing the ukrainian azov battalion. Is almost certainly a Russian Z Nazi or supporter of them. It’s an easy way to identify them since it’s an oddly specific combonation of groups to hate.
And for the record. Azov never would have existed if russia didn’t start a war against Ukraine in 2014… eat me
Azov never would have existed if russia didn’t start a war against Ukraine in 2014… eat me
OK. But nobody invoking them now is all that concerned with that.
Personally I got a kick out of Gravel Institute posting a video about Nazis in the Ukraine military talking about Azov shortly before Russia attacked in 2022, and then pulling it down shortly afterward because more or less their exact point was now considered to be Russian far right propaganda. Just such a beautiful example of how things like that can change.
Is that AoC with a Hitler mustache? Hasn’t she specifically condemned Nazis and Genocide?
Yes.
But she’s a ‘shitlib’, and thus a genocide supporter. /s
I fucking hate Tankies
When you ask the People’s Front of Judea who they hate worse, the Romans or the Judean People’s Front.
SPLITTERS!
From the title of that post, I’m getting hella “the right can’t meme” vibes (but it’s also just fucked up grammatically so maybe that’s throwing me off). But at the same time I’m getting tankie vibes from the “what you hope for” side of the meme…
During that era everyone was homophobic. Though the self proclaimed allies of today are a larger threat to our existence than those that openly hate us.
I feel dumb. What’s below Israel’s flag?
One of multiple flags representing terrorism
Tankie, definitely.
Same as on reddit.
I lived happily oblivious of the existence of tankies until I randomly said I was voting for a democratic politician in r/latestagecapitalism.
Yeah, the fact that they’re all so anti-voting and/or “both sides”-y is why I think the root of most of the tankies’ thinking is Chinese propaganda. Like, just because you vote for someone doesn’t mean you are 100% aligned with everything they say. Or even 50% of it. Just means you’re more aligned with them than the other option. The only people who could possibly benefit from such a stupid mode of thought are part of authoritarian governments.
Yep. I nearly disagree as much with a democrat as a republican.
But pragmatically, I prefer that trans people and disabled people aren’t literally eradicated, and whether 1% or 50% of the population turn out, the election still stands so I’ll be voting.
That doesn’t mean I don’t do other things in a more revolutionary spirit, but I think it’s dumb not to vote.
But pragmatically, I prefer that trans people and disabled people aren’t literally eradicated
OH, so you think that trans and disabled folk should be SPECIAL and EXCLUDED from genocide while other people are being genocided elsewhere??? Typical shitlib
/s
I wouldn’t even say it’s propaganda. It’s bad-faith. They find whatever reasons they can to not participate in the hopes that the system will get worse, and this will swing a magic political pendulum to the opposite side of socialist utopia.
The missing part is that magic political pendulum = “People suffer more and more until it boils over in a violent revolution with much death on all sides and The Party™ installs themselves as leaders of everything, which then will ‘dissolve itself’ ‘one day’ ‘when they’re no longer necessary.’”
Which might be even less likely to happen than if it was magic, tbf.
I would honestly be less upset if revolutions at least actually happened like that.
But they don’t.
People can suffer nearly infinitely (see: North Korea). It is when people are poised to strike that revolution happens. The French Revolution did not happen any of the innumerable times France had experienced hunger and hardship before; it happened when the bougie reps of the Third Estate were put in a position of power by the circumstances presented. The February Russian Revolution did not happen at the height of serfdom or mass starvation; it happened when the forces of repression were weakened by outside distractions. The Iranian Revolution, the Carnation Revolution, the Irish War of Independence… all originating in states which had experienced far greater suffering in the past under those selfsame regimes.
Revolutions happen when people think they can win, not when suffering hits a certain threshold. And very often, people think they can win precisely because of hard-fought reforms putting them in a better position to strike.
