• DeusUmbra@lemmy.world
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    20 days ago

    This is why no one can find anything on Google anymore, they don’t know how to google shit.

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    21 days ago

    We all know how AI has made things worse, but here’s some context on how it’s outright backwards.

    Early search engines had a context problem. To use an example from “Halt and Catch Fire”, if you search for “Texas Cowboy”, do you mean the guys on horseback driving a herd of cows, or do you mean the football team? If you search for “Dallas Cowboys”, should that bias the results towards a different answer? Early, naive search engines gave bad results for cases like that. Spat out whatever keywords happen to hit the most.

    Sometimes, it was really bad. In high school, I was showing a history teacher how to use search engines, and he searched for “China golden age”. All results were asian porn. I think we were using Yahoo.

    AltaVista largely solved the context problem. We joke about its bad results now, but it was one of the better search engines before Google PageRank.

    Now we have AI unsolving the problem.

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      21 days ago

      I was okay with keyword results. If you knew what you were dealing with in the search engine, you could usually find what you were looking for.

    • ERROR: UserNotFound@infosec.pub
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      21 days ago

      “How to to describe a character in my story hiding a body after they committed a murder?”

      ⬇️

      “killed someone, how to hide body?”

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      21 days ago

      As a funny challenge I like to come up with simplified, stupid-sounding, 3-word search queries for complex questions, and more often than not it’s good enough to get me the information I’m looking for.

    • GamingChairModel@lemmy.world
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      21 days ago

      Why do people Google questions anyway?

      Because it gives better responses.

      Google and all the other major search engines have built in functionality to perform natural language processing on the user’s query and the text in its index to perform a search more precisely aligned with the user’s desired results, or to recommend related searches.

      If the functionality is there, why wouldn’t we use it?

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      21 days ago

      I just tested. “Angelina jolie heat” gives me tons of shit results, I have to scroll all the way down and then click on “show more results” in order to get the filmography.

      “Is angelina jolie in heat” gives me this bluesky post as the first answer and the wikipedia and IMDb filmographies as 2nd and 3rd answer.

      So, I dunno, seems like you’re wrong.

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        21 days ago

        Have people just completely forgot how search engines work? If you search for two things and get shit results, it means those two things don’t appear together.

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            20 days ago

            I mean, when even people on Lemmy (who are supposed to be a bit more tech literate and stuff) insist that the solution is cutting a couple 2 letter words from your search query to make everything much shorter and efficient, are you even surprised?

            I’ve been thinking for a while that people seem to be getting dumber and it might actually be true I don’t think that it’s a coincidence that fascism and other forms of conservatism seem to be on the rise pretty much everywhere in the world.

      • GamingChairModel@lemmy.world
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        21 days ago

        Search engine algorithms are way better than in the 90s and early 2000s when it was naive keyword search completely unweighted by word order in the search string.

        So the tricks we learned of doing the bare minimum for the most precise search behavior no longer apply the same way. Now a search for two words will add weight to results that have the two words as a phrase, and some weight for the two words close together in the same sentence, but still look for each individual word as a result, too.

        More importantly, when a single word has multiple meanings, the search engines all use the rest of the search as an indicator of which meaning the searcher means. “Heat” is a really broad word with lots of meanings, and the rest of the search can help inform the algorithm of what the user intends.

    • ByteJunk@lemmy.world
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      21 days ago

      Because that’s the normal way in which humans communicate.

      But for Google more specifically, that sort of keyword prompts is how you searched stuff in the '00s… Nowadays the search prompt actually understands natural language, and even has features like “people also ask” that are related to this.

      All in all, do whatever works for you, it’s just that asking questions isn’t bad.

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    21 days ago

    ddg isn’t really any better with that exact search query. all ‘fashion’ related items on the first page.

    you get the expected top result (imdb page for the film ‘heat’, which you have to scroll through to determine your ‘answer’) by using simply: angelina jolie heat

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    20 days ago

    Everyone in this post is the annoying IT person who says “why don’t you just run Linux?” to people who don’t even fully understand what an OS is in the first place.

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    21 days ago

    Heat is an excellent movie, and one of my top five. Coincidentally, I just watched it last night. For a film released in 1998, it has aged well. OOP is in the ballpark, too - a young Natalie Portman is in it, not Jolie.

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    19 days ago

    It’s hilarious I got the same results with Charlize Theron with the exact same movie, I guess we both don’t know who actresses are apparently.

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    21 days ago

    I never heard of the movie and was enjoying the content you created that I thought was supposed to be funny.