Inception bitch!
There are many communities still on reddit for which there are no alternatives on lemmy as of yet and if you want it to surpass reddit you need to stop with the toxic attitude and the false sense of superiority especially since a lot of the content on this platform is just reposts from 4chan, x, reddit. If curious folk come here and all they see is toxic threads and reposts why would they stay here? This is mostly in response to the comments I’ve seen on here not the thread itself.
Lemmy’s biggest problem is how aggressive and uncompromisingblm the people can be.
Lol yeah we haven’t heard that before
Really? I’ve seen Lemmings are much more competent, way higher debate ability, far less disinformation. Also I’ve seen this 10x so far in a month: “sorry, you’re right”. Almost never saw that on Reddit. And I’ve had to say it many times too.
Then we are having different experiences here because I see a lot of extremely flawed understandings of political philosophy and basic/entry level economics.
you been arguing with tankies?
There are geniuses on all sides, I feel its just different priorities and perspectives, not to say they are all geniuses. At least here you can discuss the merits of Austrian economics for instance.
Those that find a lot of merit in Austrian economics would be a great example of the type of people Im talking about were they more common here. Im not seeing a lot of them around
I’m not saying there’s a lot, just a lot more than Reddit.
Reddit has several subs for discussing Austrianism last I checked.
especially the anti-toxicity people
Wait, what’s wrong with Lemmy?
People don’t actually want to engage with different opinions
It insists upon itself.
The main devs are tankies. That’s all I’m aware of.
I mean even if they are, the software is open source and lemmy is made to work with ActivityPup, an open protocol. That is what matters at the end of the day.
This is what’s insane to me.
Option 1: locked software owned by billionaires who can control the narrative and remove anything they don’t like
Option 2: open-source software anybody can use, coded by people with extreme opinions
It’s pretty clear which one is superior
Oh I know, that’s why I kind of shrug it off.
ActivityPup
Who’s a good boy? Now go fetch that remote content and you’ll get a treat!
ahaha, I cant even correct that, it feels wrong
If you know you know
I mean, I presume… I don’t know, so I don’t know
Neither of these are true lol. Someone has to tell the right wingers they deserve the death penalty for treason.
Keeping away from X is more of a health thing honestly,
I know at least for me, it leaves me worse off reading through posts on there even if I’ve tried to fight them
That’s legit. If this post were a call for good self care and mental health, I wouldn’t have commented. I tire quite easily of individualistic solutions to social and institutional problems.
Just deleted my reddit and joined Lemmy. Do I have to quit already?
No, you get to be where you want.
I was joking but thank you. 😁
CATHERINE TWINNIE SPOTTED!!! O/
Yeah it’s over
Why? I literally just joined.
they’re messing with you…Lemmy does have a tankie problem:
I saw someone praising Stalin earlier. It seems you’re right.
İf you want a tankies perspective then check out ProleWikil
I don’t think I do.
I’m doing my part!
I don’t want to be part of a problem. I want to be the whole problem
Apparently if you want to do that you have to buy Twitter
have you ever seen Lemmy
ON WEEEEEEED
Bro, I’ve been high basically every fucking day for the last 5 years for sure but we’re getting on a decade here.
There isn’t much shit I haven’t tried on weed because raw dawgging this timeline is a guaranteed shotgun slurpee.
Bro I’m one week into a tbreak and it’s painful
There’s some weird shit going on, man. Beans flying everywhere, dudes who don’t want to shit for 3 days. Who’s that sending pictures of dead girls to everyone? I don’t know! Mod team, go! Mod team, go!
No shit for 3 days? That’s amateur numbers! There was that guy on Reddit that didn’t go for a month and a half and had to get unclogged at the hospital!
Cats and dogs, living together!
What if I’m on drugs?
That’s fine, you’re supported by a problem
inb4 a bunch of
junkiesredditors justify theiraddictioncontinuing usage because [reason]They won’t come here, and they’re on reddit because
- Actually good algorithms
- More people and content
What else am I going to do with my time, read a book? I can’t even read an article!
Muh niche topics
If you’re still on my mom…
your’re
Yheir
Your not gonna like the fact that Nobody likes a grammar Nazi
*yor’oe
Joke’s on you, I’m on Mbin
How’s mbin been so far, compared to lemmy
I love it! Been using Interstellar on mobile.
How’s it compare to lemmy thou please? Same principal but better executed? Better content? More content?
I prefer the interface by a lot: More features, better UI, and more capability. Content is the same because federation.
If you’re still using the Internet in any capacity…
If you’re still using written word…
If you still are
Lmao well I found this place cause they won’t let me on Reddit anymore. They didn’t appreciate my colourful thoughts on Musk.
Honestly you could get banned for upvoting someone who stated someone seemed agitated and should try following dear leaders advice and take a shot of ivermecrin, a shot of bleach, and take a nap.
Watching reddits fall over the span of 12 years was certainly a thing.
Don’t we still have a few years before lemmy somehow enshittifies?
The fact that this is being upvoted so much I think demonstrates a big misunderstanding of how the fediverse works.
Nobody owns Lemmy and if a instance does something shitty it costs hardly anything to change instances. Nobody owns the lemmy software, and other softwares like mbin/piefed exist too with the same content.
It’d be pretty difficult, any instances that start that shit would be defederated with a quickness, but I don’t want to be too optimistic lol
Not really. It’s not a centralized platform by design - unless you’re talking about the flagship instances, which are a common problem with federated projects
It’s impossible by design. If an instance enshittifies people will just leave the instance.
if .world says being a minor is bannable suddenly there’s no minors anywhere on Lemmy. A minor example that is understandable, sure, but it’s just to show that a single large instance can cause a lot of change if they decide to.
Lemmy.world is the second largest Lemmy instance, and less than a third of all users. If someone doesn’t like their rules it is trivial for a person to move to an instance who’s ruleset better aligns with their wishes.
it is trivial for a person to move to an instance who’s ruleset better aligns with their wishes
How?
Can I just move my existing account to a different instance? Or do I need to create a new account on another instance?
perhaps you aren’t aware of how many instances there are that have much looser rules
But I don’t think that’s true at all.
I haven’t seen anyone share their age that’s less than 18 since that change 🤷♀️
I hadn’t seen that before the change? I didn’t even know there was one.
that’s a fair point lol, good talking to ya!
The protocol itself could surely start its journey if enshittification? In which case different, possibly incompatible, branches would spawn fragmenting the Lemmy space. Still miles better than the whole thing burning to the ground. But with no shareholders looming around (yet) we can hope it won’t come to that.
I don’t see how, it’s covered by a good license, and if it did it’d be forked in an instant. Can you give a historical example?
I guess the closest I know of is Maps.me and Organic Maps? Maps.me was open source, but got purchased and enshittified, so Organic Maps was forked from it. And now there is some drama with the Organic Maps shareholders/co-founders, so unless that is (or has it already been?) sorted out we’re likely to see another fork of it.
Please correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t the main dev(s) members of lemmy.ml? So I can certainly see how differing political views could skew the development of the main branch of Lemmy.
That’s a bad example because it got forked and it wasn’t an actual problem?
Please correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t the main dev(s) members of lemmy.ml[3]? So I can certainly see how differing political views could skew the development of the main branch of Lemmy.
People say this all the time but never can give even one example of a potential problem. Preemptive forking sounds insane to me. The notion that lemmy might enshittify because you don’t like their politics is also ridiculous when their politics are anti-capitalist… aka the politics that are least likely to enshittify.
The organic maps founders seem to have convinced the volunteers that a private company would be best to manage an open source project. The community got duped hard.
I agree. And luckily for Lemmy and all other FOSS projects the worst that can happen is a fork of the project is created with a potentially fractured community.
Isn’t that the exact same argument for Twitter? If Twitter gets shitty, people will just leave? Because I feel like we’re not really seeing that.
There is only one Twitter whereas anyone can start “a Lemmy” (instance). I am using a different instance than you, for example. So if mine enshittifies I can go somewhere else and still have access to the broader network.
No, not at all, twitter is not decentralized, with a lemmy instance, if you leave, you lose nothing at all. With twitter, you can’t take the content or your account
Not quite accurate. If you leave an instance, you do lose any posts or comments you had. Not a big loss, but there is that sense of investment in an account and reputation.
It’s entirely possible in the future, since ActivityPub accounts can be “forwarded”. It’s a little clunky but look at Mastodon.
Millions of people have left Twitter, wtf are you talking about?
No because Twitter is a walled ecosystem, you can’t move to Bluesky and interact with people on twitter for example.
With federated stuff you can move and still interact with people on other instances.
You’re telling me you can’t cross post links from Twitter to Bluesky and vis versa?
Sure you can, but I can’t follow someone on twitter or bluesky from other platforms.
Links in the bio?
