• Texas_Hangover@sh.itjust.works
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    25 days ago

    Everybody RRRREEEEEEEEEE’s about Nintendo, but Kingdom come deliverance II released at $90 for the base game and I fucking LOVE Kingdom come deliverance, I wasn’t paying that shit. 2 months later, I got the gold edition or whatever for $80. (PS5) I am very happy with the purchase. Looking forward for the DLC lol.

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      Why would they? Not saying it’s right, but there’s literally zero motivation for them to focus on people who can’t buy their products. They are a luxury good.

      They are a company who exists to make money, not entertain us, despite that being what they say (in order to sell more). Them, and every other for profit company in the world.

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      25 days ago

      They aren’t your friends, they don’t care about you - they care about the money in your pocket.

      They know they are too big to fail, so they are gonna raise prices 50% no problem.

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    26 days ago

    My ol’ good Switch 1 will keep rocking my TV set until it breaks apart. I never asked for a Switch 2 anyway.

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      26 days ago

      Same, I need to repair the fan on mine asap though. The ifixit parts don’t look too bad but it does not look like a fun operation haha.

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    26 days ago

    Existing owners can upgrade to the Switch 2 version for $10, gaining better framerates, higher resolutions, and HDR support.

    I didn’t realize they had this option. As far as legal routes go, that’s not terrible (assuming there’s no weird downside, like no longer being able to play the original on the switch 1). Free would be better, of course, but $10 certainly beats paying $90 just to play the improved version on switch 2.

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      25 days ago

      It’s basically the PS4 to PS5 $10 upgrade thing. The difference is that Nintendo isn’t dropping the price of their 8 year old game, unlike what the rest of the industry does. So it’s $60 BotW + $20 DLC + $10 Switch 2 upgrade = $90. Absolutely ridiculous.

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      26 days ago

      The upgrade pack is also free for Expansion Pack tier switch online subscribers from what I’ve heard at least for botw/totk. So if youre already on one of those for N64/GBA/Genesis/GameCube then it’s no extra cost

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    26 days ago

    The first and only console I bought was the original Wii. Games were expensive so I did not have many. I managed to install a few emulators and use it for older console emulation.

    After some years they started pulling the plug on the online services. That’s when I decided I would never buy another console again. I will not feed any more walled gardens. I have more games than I can play on my PC, a lot of them are DRM free.

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    IDK how to feel about rising video game prices. On the one hand, prices were stagnant for decades. On the other hand, companies can sell far more copies of games than they could back in the 1980s and 1990s. The cost of games is all in the development. The more you sell, the cheaper the price can be. They cost next to nothing to package and distribute (or are distributed digitally.)

    On one hand, games are a lot more complex and expansive than they were back in the day. On the other, game devs now have tools the creators of old couldn’t even dream of. No one is hand coding the next Mario game is assembly.

    There’s a lot of variables here. And it’s really just hard to make a fair judgment about it.

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      They cost next to nothing to package and distribute (or are distributed digitally.)

      Steam takes 30% cut. This, of course, does not apply to nintendo, but still

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      25 days ago

      If they’re turning billions of dollars in profit each year, there’s no reason to raise the price. Fuck them

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      In many ways I think rising prices could be great, but in reality, they won’t be. With the technology available today, we could have even cooler games than we do, and more games, and more great games. We could have more diverse and experimental games. It would be lovely if solo indie developers were able to make a living from making great games, rather than basically needing to chase a dream akin to getting drafted into the NBA. Game developers are seriously underpaid, it would be great if they got paid as much as other software developers, especially since their work is equally complex and usually more stressful.

      In reality, rising game prices will not help with any of those things, and will just make the C-suite richer. The one silver lining is that this may allow small indies to start charging a more livable realistic price for their games.

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      25 days ago

      Yeah but BOTW has already made them rich. Development is finished and even the next game is 2 years old. I call it pure greed.

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        25 days ago

        There are lots of people with disposable income who don’t have the technical capability to pirate.

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      26 days ago

      $10 to replay it, replay meaning you already have the switch version. Or free if you have switch online expansion pack. It’s only going to set you back 90 (instead of 80) if you’ve never owned it and you want it on switch 2

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        25 days ago

        $90 is still an insane ask for an almost decade old game but at least they’re not completely screwing over the people who already own it for once.

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          I think breath of the wild has always been overpriced lol. And it’s not news that Nintendo rarely ever discounts their older games. But the vast majority of people who are gonna want to play it on switch 2 already own a copy ( I hope).

          I wonder what this’ll do to the price of used physical copies

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            This pricing is why Nintendo doesn’t want emulation of its games, while other companies don’t give a shit because they either figured out how to port their shit over to PC or did a multiplatform release to begin with. Steam was the largest reason piracy for games has literally shrunk and why so many from the scene stopped. Make it cheap and easy to get the game, no need for people to pirate it. Nintendo did the exact opposite and has tried and tried to keep it on a closed platform…yet it’s one of the most emulated company out there.

          • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.social
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            26 days ago

            I wonder what this’ll do to the price of used physical copies

            Probably nothing. The used prices aren’t necessarily reduced based on the retail price of the new copy, but by the supply vs the demand. If they have hella supply and no demand, they will still be heavily discounted.

          • Nath@aussie.zone
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            25 days ago

            You might be surprised. I came to the Switch party super late when I bought my kid a switch Christmas 2023. He’s all over Zelda now, has BotW, TotK and even Skyward Sword on his Switch. For him, these games are all from the last year. He turned 2 the year BotW was released.

            It’ll be the same story with Switch 2. Some kid who might not even be born yet will get a Switch 2 in 8-9 years and come across these games with all his school friends.

            I doubt I’ll go the Switch 2 path with the kids. I haven’t seen a reason to upgrade, yet. I’m thinking of the Steam Deck - while the Nintendo had a fairly cheap entry point to get on the platform, I’ve spent enough on games to negate the difference between a Switch and a Steam Deck - where I already have a 500+ game library to play on it.

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        26 days ago

        I bought a physical copy of BotW while I was living Japan. My Nintendo account is U.S. My copy of TotK is Digital to boot.

        Fuck me, right? lol. What an ass hole I am!

        • neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          Yeah! I forgot it was on the wiiu that actually how I played it too. I later got a switch and played through it again though.

    • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      25 days ago

      I played it six years ago, but with a better experience than switch 2… thank you, cemu

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        I’ve been wanting to play botw so I tried it on cemu awhile back but couldn’t get it to work. I’ll have to try it again and see if I can figure out what I was doing wrong.

    • ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com
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      25 days ago

      Pretty soon you won’t be able to buy a Switch, once manufacturing ceases.

      Nintendo famously never discounts. But this is actually Nintendo’s way of not only never discounting, but increasing the price over time.

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        25 days ago

        Pretty soon you won’t be able to buy a Switch

        A new one, but pretty soon the market will be flooded with second hand switches

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        25 days ago

        There are Switch games being released in 2026. I expect new Switches will continue to be produced at least until then.

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          Sure, I just mean, look how long BOTW has been sold - it will be a fraction of that length of time before Switches cease being sold. Mostly I was pointing to the system refresh as not only a chance to reissue BOTW, but to reset pricing expectations.

          There will be a future where BOTW S2-edition is still being sold and the Switch is not. From them on, BOTW will be a $90 game, since it will be the only way to get it.

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            Yup, which is exactly how Nintendo wants it. I feel like they’ve always had things that mitigated their BS “never lower the price of games, EVER” philosophy, most notably cheaper hardware than the competition and a lower price point for games ($60 rather than $70). Now they have a console that’s almost as much as a PS5 AND are charging MORE than $70 for some of their games? Maybe the market can handle their excessive pricing, but I hope they get knocked down a peg.

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        26 days ago

        Hell EA is doing good now in some ways like open sourcing the command and conquer games. Maybe they got rid of their Shit executives to Ubisoft and Nintendo.

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          Yeah, they’ve been doing good work funding smaller teams too. Games like it takes two and split fiction are great lower budget experimental games.

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            I recently broke a decade plus boycott of EA products to purchase Split Fiction for full price. My friend asked me to play It Takes Two with him for free through friend pass and I was so impressed by it that I wanted to support the devs. Besides, the whole point of the boycott was to “vote with my wallet” and I want them to know that I want more games with that kind of quality made by teams that are (seemingly) happy to be doing what they do.

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      26 days ago

      Wow, I had actually never heard that Doug Bowser was formerly at EA. Ooof

      I get that it’s more fun to point out his name, I’m just surprised I hadn’t seen the comment made before.

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      They really wouldn’t. They would have to triple or quadruple sales to take that sort of a hit. As it stands it’s one of the best selling games of all time already, basically everyone interested in it already owns it.

      Financially, they made the right decision. As annoying as it is from the consumer side.

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        That assumes people actually buy it though. Everyone already has this game, so I would expect most of the sales to come from the upgrade pack and not the $90 switch 2 edition. Nintendo usually makes bank by selling old games at full price with a generational console gap.

        Tons of the full price successful “remasters” on Switch were Wii games which people no longer used, and Wii U games which no one originally bought.

        On the other hand, the last time I didn’t see Nintendo make bank on literally zero effort was never, so I’m not that hopeful that people won’t just shill out for this scam too.

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        I bought it second hand. Nintendo got $0 from the sale. In fact, two thirds of our physical games have been purchased second hand.

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          You’re literally not their market. That’s why so much of what they focus on are digital only sales, consoles, deals and schemes. They want buy once at full price, never resell.

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        25 days ago

        If I were to buy a switch 2, I might consider a rebuy at 20-40, but I’ve already beaten it and I ain’t pain 90$ lmao

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          I guess that would be the case if you bought it, beat it and sold it, but most people in that scenario would already own it and then they would just buy the upgrade pack. This $90 option is only for people who don’t own the game in any form yet.

          The idea that any significant contingent of people would not own it in any form, then suddenly want to play it on Switch 2 but would balk at the asking price seems unlikely, certainly not enough to cut the price in half.

          If they wanted a cheaper option they could always just buy a used Switch copy and then just buy the upgrade pack. I would prefer cheaper Nintendo games too but the reality is this won’t cost them that many sales.

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    better framerates, higher resolutions, and HDR support

    Interestingly you can get all that for free now. Yarr

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      Steam is not free. Steam is 30% cut to businesses.

      Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft offload their costs via yearly subscription costs as well as developers paying a protection fee to launch on their platform. Steam just has the highest protection money scheme. You wouldn’t want anything to happen to the games you’re publishing through them, would you?