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This is kind of the plot of the Shadow of War game, but that’s just a non-cannon (I hope) video game, so it was fun
Oh no, it’s a ring dyad!
Probably would make more financial sense to Disney to just wait until it becomes public domain
I don’t know man, the rate we’re going 2044 ain’t lookin too good…
They’re gonna start again beginning with 1 AT
To be fair, the resistance being flabbergasted and in the dark at the return of their dead arch nemesis is actually quite reasonable. The return itself also harkens back to the prequels when Palpatine mentions Darth Plagueis.
The reason the Disney era movies are so underwhelming is a lack of soul and other writing blunders.
Honestly, the idea that the good guys win and then forget that they have to continue to be vigilant and let the evil they defeated come back is as topical now as it was in 2015
The movies feel like toddlers making up the story as they play with figurines.
Checklist movies. It becomes more important for the movie to have X element due to marketing reasons rather than plot reasons.
If the movie has more marketing elements than plot elements, it’s a checklist movie.
Honestly, I’d rather them have let toddlers make up the story while playing with figurines. I was certainly coming up with better plotlines than what they shat out with the sequels when I was a kid.
Episode 9, absolutely.
The Last Jedi is an anarchist critique of Star Wars that somehow got made into a Star Wars.
That got me a chuckle. It does look like that.
“Somehow, Palpatine has returned!” v2: LOTR Boogaloo
Lots of jewellery. Got to bring it all back to the old volcano. No fly zone for eagles, again. Damn.
One bracelet to rule them all. Two earrings to find them. A necklace to bind them. Maybe a fancy gold watch.
honestly the idea of a blinged out bad guy who is only powerful due to their 500 enchanted pieces of jewelry is pretty sick, their one crippling weakness is that every step makes them jingle like a christmas carol
jingle-jingle
Legolas: Oh shit… Glamrond the Fabulous draws near…
jingle -jingle
Gimli: What do you hear with your elf ears?
jingle-jingle
Legolas: He is… Dripping with Rizz…
oh god and of course they’d have a pimp stick for a wand, perhaps yeezys of the traveller?
Perhaps a diadem? The ol HP-LOTR crossover?
Sauron checks under the couch cushions and BOOM, more profit!
FWIW, Palpatine also came back in the original storyline past ROTJ before Disney retconned the EU. Though they didn’t gloss over the “how” bit (he always intended to survive forever and had a clone factory hidden on some planet and used something similar to the force ghost, only he was able to posses his clones).
In the original story, he threatens Luke and his friends while Luke is alone, so Luke goes, “ok I’ll join the dark side”, gets some training, then switches back the first time he gets ordered to do something he didn’t like.
The basic message was “turning to the dark side was only so final for some Jedi because the order itself considered it something that couldn’t he undone, while Luke did it easily”. Some of the video games touched on this, too, where the light side and dark side were just tools and it was how you used them that determined good and evil. It was also a big theme in ROTJ itself, though not heavily explored after Vader turns back.
There’s hints of this in the sequels, but IMO they didn’t handle it that well, especially with Luke and Kylo.
I feel like when people make fun of this, it isn’t so much Palpy coming back that they have a problem with, but the sudden and unexpected nature of it. It’s such hack writing, and it only happened that way because audiences didn’t like TLJ and the people making ROS decided to backtrack on every single one of TLJ’s plot threads out of fear instead of making expanding on them for a satisfying finale.
Imagine all the Hobbits solo spin off shows that i you cant pay me to watch.
I would absolutely pay money for a slice of life hobbit spin off. No grand quest to save the world, just a few hobbit friends getting into trouble around the Shire and stealing veggies from some farmer’s garden before getting drunk at the inn. It’s exactly the feel good type of show I like.
I would also be interested in the high stakes political drama of trying to win the gardening competition every year.
Long ago I read some incredibly cursed parody along the lines of “if LotR was a Disney animated film”. The songs were absolutely horrifying. I can’t find it right now, and I think it’s best not to subject you to it anyway.
Please do subject us, if you find it.
The ring was destroyed. But little did we know: it’s true purpose was to aid in the construction of a Death Star, which is now almost complete…
Well, Arda is Melkor’s ring. He’s going to re-shape it into a death star and blow up Illuvatar.
Technically, he had like 15 of them things.
20 to be exact, 9 human, 7 dwarven, 3 elven and his own
Yes, but it was a bit like having a radio station and 14 small radios laying around 📻.
So one ring is a transmitter and the others are receivers.
one ring to rule them all
“Welcome back to Radio Free Mordor. Now to tell you the story of how I taught the Elves craftsmanship, a story that Elrond doesn’t want you to hear.”
“The Ring was destroyed.”
If disney does what disney usually does, LOTR will be dead to me.
Who cares what any of the movies do? The LotR is originally the written work. The books are the substance.
They’re already doing it with TV shows, animated films etc. Disney would just do more of the same, I’d imagine…
I can only imagine what Jolkein Rolkein Rolkein Tolkein would make of it all.
How is the last Rings of Power seasons? Haven’t watched it yet
The production quality? Fantastic and even better than season 1.
The story? I ended the last episode actually angry. I haven’t been angry at a piece of media like this in a long time.
S1 was alright for a LotR fanfic - so not that great. I didn’t get to S2 yet but I heard it’s not exactly going up in quality
Why is it so many fiction works that get expanded would do so much better if they just search out actual fanfic and pay those people for their imagination? Instead they get people who aren’t invested in the world who do a halfass job that is “canon”, yet so far off the mark.
Because actual fanfics are done by people that love the source material and wish to remain true to it.
Expanded works are done by people who want to: make changes for the sake of their own “artistic” originality, do what they think will make people watch it (doesn’t mean it has to be good), which are both tied to studio execs all wanting to push their pet version of whatever the product will be based on budget or ego.
I really like the visuals and music. Otherwise, it’s polarising to most people.
Yes, went into the first episode all giddy. That was the high point. Seemed to start dropping down after the prologue about Galadriel. I’d have to say that Bombadil is the low so far for me. Of many lows.
I just wish the dialogue and story-telling was better. I don’t even mind (too much) the liberties they took with all the characters but it would’ve been more palatable if they’d done it nicely.
I’ll still watch though. Although, I haven’t rewatched most of the episodes.
Rewatchability is a great measure, isn’t it? I’ve rewatched LotR and even some Hobbit scenes so many times. I don’t have the desire to bother with this.
It is! I’ve rewatched only the first couple of episodes when the first season came out. I’m unable to rewatch anymore without getting angry at how badly they messed up most of it. LOL
It does have a fascinating “how many times can this train keep wrecking” quality to it. I kind of hope the producers next turn The Room into a mini-series.
I couldn’t make myself watch the last episode of season 1. There was a lot of eye-rolling and the story just didn’t really capture me.
The best scenes I can remember was the conversations between Elrond and the dwarf.
I feel the best advice is to simply watch it and try not to let online opinions sway you until after you’ve watched it.
I was dreading it, because I saw a lot of online voices saying it’s genuinely the worst thing that has ever been on television. Surprisingly to me, I mostly enjoyed it, although I found season 2 to be stronger than season 1.
A few parts I didn’t like, couple of parts I mentally groaned and thought “…why did they do that?”, and some other parts I found great.
A lot of the “why did they do that” is explained by not having access to the Silmarillion. They only have the appendices from LOTR. For such crippling limitation I think they’re doing a great job. I’m a lifelong LOTR-Silmarillion superfan, I say fuck the Tolkien estate.
I’m trying to watch it in bits. I’ll watch for 20 minutes or so, then go do something interesting.
it was great. ill definitely watch the whole series again but ill probably torrent the thing because the amazon video player sucks ass.
It’s a nice fan fiction with high production quality.
Story wise, it’s as if trying to write the Silmarillion but only using characters from LOTR… It feels a bit flat.
They couldn’t get the rights to the Silmarillion sadly. The only canon resources they’re allowed to use are the appendices at the end of LOTR. I think they’re doing a fantastic job with such limited material. The last two episodes are awesome.
From what I’ve read no, that has expanded some since the first season. In season 2 they literally said the word Silmaril in one scene.
How on earth do you cope with the last 2 episodes being awesome? Each one is rising action to a battle that has no climax, they built and built to nothing. And then…
Elrond falls in love and kisses Galadriel…the MOTHER of the woman he eventually married…
I’m not a Tolkien superfan, and for me it was mostly just kind of boring.
Also, this portrayal of Middle Earth seems to have very limited ontological inertia. Everything not on screen might as well not exist. Even the things that are shown feel static and shallow, like there isn’t enough “stuff” to actually fill out the world and support the complex societies within.
Orcs fighting in direct sunlight, Grand-Alf talking with some guy called Bombadil, and other Shenanigans.
